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1911 census please!

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allotment

allotment Report 28 Jun 2012 13:47

If it's your William it's a Catholic Burial and original says address is County Mental Hospital.

Name: William Joseph Shale
Age: 61
Burial Date: 12 Mar 1931
Parish: Yew Tree Cemetery

Florence

Florence Report 27 Jun 2012 20:02

Oh !! my word!!!!!! Allottment!!

:-0 :-0 :-0 surely not the same person?mmmmmmm? nah! thinking of the one i saw on telly who murdered wives for thier money.
i do not think he,s the same one ha ha .

He sure liked marriage though! did,nt he ? thank you again its been very interesting indeed!
and thanks looking for extra info! most welcome.

will sign off now Flo :-D

allotment

allotment Report 27 Jun 2012 19:34

Surely not?????????????
Name: SHALE, William J
Registration district: West Derby County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1917 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's name Mary Daly
Volume no: 8B Page no: 803

allotment

allotment Report 27 Jun 2012 19:32

Not long!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Name: SHALE, Monica R
Registration district: Prescot County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1915 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death:49
Volume no: 8B Page no: 1087

Florence

Florence Report 27 Jun 2012 19:10

Oh Bless you!! Allottment Thank you soooo much, So he did marry Annie Wells!

hoorah!! now then wander if she died or devorced?

thank you too Maddie could not have sorted this without you two!!

one happy lady!! :-) Flo

Allottment.
ooha!! just saw the first marriage and deaths of first 2 marriages.
scary ! wander how long Monica lasted? or dare i ask ?

allotment

allotment Report 27 Jun 2012 19:08

He had married Margaret Frances Walton in 1892 and she died the same year.

Florence

Florence Report 27 Jun 2012 19:02

Thank you Maddie and Allottment,

Yes His father is Joseph and Agnes and his birth did vary between 1867/9
and he was b Bilston all thats correct ,

He is not with parents on 1901 census so i assumed he married. so thats wrong .

His father was a Blacksmith so anything to do with steel/Iron lab would have possibley been William occ.
The 1911 census looks like him.
Flo

allotment

allotment Report 27 Jun 2012 19:02

Have sent you a pm Flo with the image.

and he was already a widower for the 1898 marriage!!!!

allotment

allotment Report 27 Jun 2012 18:53

Can the dad's name on the marriage to Annie really be true??? Worryingly in 1871 they were living at the Nelson Inn, Bridge Street, Bilston. and from FreeBMD he was born in 1867?

It is him!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mistranscribed. The address is Lord Nelson his dad is Joseph!!!!!

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Jun 2012 18:49

hi
putting in William j brought up the 1910 marraige !!!!
maddie

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Jun 2012 18:42

is this him 1881
SHALE, Joseph Head Married M 40 1841 General Smith (Blk)
Bilston, Staffordshire VIEW
SHALE, Agnes Wife Married F 36 1845
Bilston, Staffordshire VIEW
SHALE, Florry Daughter Single F 16 1865 Assists At Home
Bilston, Staffordshire VIEW
SHALE, Wm J Son Single M 14 1867 Scholar
Bilston, Staffordshire VIEW
SHALE, Marian T Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
Bilston, Staffordshire VIEW
SHALE, Joseph L Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Bilston, Staffordshire VIEW
SHALE, Agnes E Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Bilston, Staffordshire VIEW
SHALE, Frederick S Son Single M 1 1880
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
SHALE, Eveline Daughter Single F 0 1881
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW

Piece: 3707

Folio: 7

Page: 8

Registration District: West Derby

Civil Parish: West Derby

Municipal Borough:

Address: 67, Edgeware St, West Derby

County: Lancashire

if it is 1898 marraige can't be him

maddie

Florence

Florence Report 27 Jun 2012 18:40

Maddie you are an Angel thats him thank you ! or is it the marriage in 1910?
He was b William Joseph not Joseph William?

And thank you Allotment!

that proves i have the wrong 1901 census and marriage , his father is Joseph Shale.

Flo

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Jun 2012 18:36

there is this marraige ????????
Civil registration event: Marriage
View the original image

Name: SHALE, William Joseph

Registration district: [?] Liverpool

County: Lancashire

Year of registration: 1898

Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun

Spouse's last name Not available before 1912

Volume no: [?] 8B

Page no: [?] 212
MarriageFinderâ„¢: [?] William Joseph Shale married one of the following people Transcript
WELLS, Annie VIEW
WILSON, Esther Elizabeth

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Jun 2012 18:34

is this possible
Civil registration event: Death
View the original image

Name: SHALE, Annie Tinckler

Registration district: [?] West Derby

County: Lancashire

Year of registration: 1906

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Age at death:36

Volume no: 8B

Page no: 336

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allotment

allotment Report 27 Jun 2012 18:32

Guessing that this is not your William as you would remember his dad's name??

Name: William Joseph Shale
Birth Year: abt 1869 Age: 29
Marriage Date: 13 Jun 1898
Parish: Liverpool St Simon
Spouse's Name: Annie Wells
Father's Name: Lord Nelson Shale
Spouse Father's Name: Samuel Wells

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Jun 2012 18:32

marraige
Civil registration event: Marriage
View the original image

Name: SHALE, Joseph W

Registration district: [?] West Derby

County: Lancashire

Year of registration: 1910

Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

Spouse's last name Not available before 1912

Volume no: [?] 8B

Page no: [?] 1060
MarriageFinderâ„¢: [?] Joseph W Shale married one of the following people Transcript
MONTARO, Elizabeth A VIEW
WELBY, Monica R

Florence

Florence Report 27 Jun 2012 18:31

Thank you Maddie , so very grateful.

I will look again for marriage.

Funny i cannot seem to find death for Annie ? or perhaps 1901 census is wrong?

Flo

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Jun 2012 18:26

SHALE, William J Head Married M 42 1869 General Labourer Galvanizer Building Bilston Staffordshire VIEW
SHALE, Monica Wife Married F 40 1871 House Work Dublin Ireland Resident VIEW


RG number: RG14

Piece: 22595

Reference: RG14PN22595 RG78PN1326 RD455 SD9 ED43 SN223

Registration District: West Derby

Sub District: West Derby Western

Enumeration District: 43

Parish: West Derby

Address: 18 Angela Street Edge Hill Liverpool

County: Lancashire



they had been married 9 months

Florence

Florence Report 27 Jun 2012 18:22

Hope someone can help me please!

I have a William J Shale b 1869 Bilston Living West Derby lanc .

Now on 1901 he looks like he is married to a Annie
I have found a marriage that matches in 1898 Liverpool.Annie Wells she was b Cumberland.b 1871. no children

But on 1911 i have noticed he is married to a Monica b 1871 Dublin Ireland no children.
But i cannot view 1911 to check exact info and thats where i hope some one could help me could you be kind enough to put it on here for me please?

I cannot find another marriage to a Monica, and maybe there is a mistake/
or one of the census is not the same William.

Thanking you for your time in advance Flo!