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HOW TO FIND CANADIAN RECORDS??

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Helenamae

Helenamae Report 25 Jun 2012 20:39

Hi
I am looking for records to follow a Annie Peacock, who left England from Liverpool and arrived in Quebec Canada 21st June 1884. She was born in 1864 and left England with a friend called Anne Easter. I am wondering if there are any Canadian websites I can hook up with to find information on her.

Regards

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Jun 2012 20:44

For background:

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Annie Peacock
Name: Annie Peacock
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Date of Arrival: 21 Jun 1884
Vessel: Parisian
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England; Londonderry, Ireland
Roll: C-4533

Helenamae

Helenamae Report 25 Jun 2012 20:51

Thanks have this information, need to find where she went to in Canada and what happened to her!

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 25 Jun 2012 20:53

Hi you could try these sites

www.automatedgenealogy.com

www.collectionscanada.ca

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Helenamae

Helenamae Report 25 Jun 2012 21:04

Thank you for the info

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Jun 2012 11:42

Just an afterthought - there is an Ancestry tree with an Annie Dorothea Peacock, born Herts 1864 and settled in Manitoba having married a J.B. Turley. . They have no record of emigration, though her parents died in England so she would most likely have emigrated as an adult.
Her husband was born England but I can't see a marriage, so might be worth checking out, if you happen to have a Hertfordshire connection.
Jan

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 26 Jun 2012 12:04

Just to follow on from Jan:
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

DETAILED MARRIAGE INFORMATION

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1884-001007

MARRIAGE DETAILS
Place of Marriage: BDN (Brandon)
Date of Marriage: 12/07/1884
PERSONAL DETAILS
GROOM BRIDE
Last Name: TURLEY Last Name: PEACOCK
Given Names: WILLIAM JOHN BRIDGER Given Names: ANNIE DOROTHY
..............
1901 Census of Canada about Annie D Turley
Name: Annie D Turley
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 37
Birth Day & Month: 29 May
Birth Year: 1864
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Immigration Year: 1884
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Methodist
Province: Manitoba
District: Brandon
District Number: 6
Sub-District: Elton
Sub-District Number: G-1
William J. B. Turley 39
Annie D Turley 37
Eva Turley 14
William H Turley 12
John Turley 8
Annie Turley 5
Bessie Turley 3
Arthur F Turley 1


Maureen

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 26 Jun 2012 12:06

WELL! This is quite a coincidence!!!
DETAILED MARRIAGE INFORMATION

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1884-001008

MARRIAGE DETAILS
Place of Marriage: BDN
Date of Marriage: 12/07/1884
PERSONAL DETAILS
GROOM BRIDE
Last Name: PECKTHORN Last Name: EASTER
Given Names: FREDERICK LEOPOLD Given Names: ANNIE


Annie Easter appears to have married on the same day-same place.

Maureen

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Jun 2012 13:24

I think Ann Easter's husband was Pickthorn not Peckthorn. There are 2 Pickthorn births in Manitoba with mother's name Annie Easter.

Elizabeth Alice, 23 April 1885
Alfred Ernest, 16 Dec. 1887

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 26 Jun 2012 14:21

Right you are,Margee!
Looks like they end up in Oregon.

Maureen

Helenamae

Helenamae Report 26 Jun 2012 15:05

Hi
Thanks for all of that. Yes it is the Hertfordshire connection as Annie Dorothy's brother is my greatgrandfather. I had made an educated guess that the 2 girls, my Annie and Annie Easter travelled together on the Parisian from Liverpool. And also what is strange is that they both married approx. 3 weeks after arriving!! Will need to investigate whether the marriages were preplanned! Anyway thanks again for your time and trouble.

Helenamae

Helenamae Report 26 Jun 2012 15:05

Hi
Thanks for all of that. Yes it is the Hertfordshire connection as Annie Dorothy's brother is my greatgrandfather. I had made an educated guess that the 2 girls, my Annie and Annie Easter travelled together on the Parisian from Liverpool. And also what is strange is that they both married approx. 3 weeks after arriving!! Will need to investigate whether the marriages were preplanned! Anyway thanks again for your time and trouble.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Jun 2012 16:38

The Turleys are in Saskatchewan in 1916:

1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta
about Annie Dorothy Turley Name: Annie Dorothy Turley
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 52
Est. Birth Year: 1864
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1884
Home in 1916: 20, Kindersley, Saskatchewan
Address: 1st South
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: William John Turley
Sub District Desc.: Townships 29, 30 and 31, ranges 12 and 13, W. 3. M., including the Town of Zealandia and the Village of Sovereign
Household Members: Name Age
William John Turley 54
Annie Dorothy Turley 52
John Turley 21
Elizabeth Francis Turley 19
Arthur Frank Turley 16
Lorne Edward Turley 14
Olive Turley 7


mgnv

mgnv Report 27 Jun 2012 10:26

Births Jun 1864 (>99%)
PEACOCK Anne Dorothy St Albans 3a 302

I think this is william's family:

Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%)
BRIDGER Venus Pandora Tunbridge 2a 651
PEEK William John Tunbridge 2a 651
Randall Mary Tunbridge 2a 651
Turley William Tunbridge 2a 651

Births Sep 1854 (>99%)
Turley Frank Tunbridge 2a 329

Births Jun 1856 (>99%)
Turley Elizabeth Mary Tunbridge 2a 365

Births Sep 1858 (>99%)
Turley Caesar Augustus Tunbridge 2a 359

Births Jun 1862 (>99%)
TURLEY William John Bridger Tunbridge 2a 421

Births Sep 1865 (>99%)
TURLEY Arthur John Tunbridge 2a 462

Deaths Sep 1871 (>99%)
Turley Arthur John 6 Tunbridge 2a 306

Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%)
Boorman Charles Tunbridge 2a 883
Knight Frederick Tunbridge 2a 883
Saxby Amy Tunbridge 2a 883
Turley Elizabeth Mary Tunbridge 2a 883

Deaths Jun 1878 (>99%)
Turley William 65 Tunbridge 2a 340

Deaths Mar 1888 (>99%)
TURLEY Venus Pandora 60 Tunbridge 2a 429


1881 England Census
Civil parish: Mayfield
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Uckfield
Sub-registration district: Rotherfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 18

Octavia E. Bridger 47 Mayfield, Sussex, England Head Annuitant
Venus C. Turley 53 Mayfield, Sussex, England Sister W Nurse (Dom)

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1051; Folio: 96; Page: 13; GSU roll: 1341249.



When I search at http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php I get Annie's kids, nieces/nephews and bro-in-law

REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1896-001042
DECEASED DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: CAESAR A Sex: MALE
Date of Death: 19/10/1896
Place of Death: BDN
Age At Death: 38 Units of age: YEARS





REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1889-1515284
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: LILLIAN EMMELIN
Sex: FEMALE Date of Birth: 11/03/1889
Place of Birth: R.M. OF ELTON
Parents Married: UNKNOWN Mother's Marital Status: UNKNOWN
Maiden Last Name: BENGE Given Names: JESSIE EMMELIN


REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1889-004469
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: LILLIAM EMMELINE
Sex: FEMALE Date of Birth: 11/12/1889
Place of Birth: R.M. OF ELTON
Parents Married: UNKNOWN
Maiden Last Name: BRUGE Given Names: JESSIE EMMELINE


REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1891-003714
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: PERCIVAL ERNEST
Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 02/03/1891
Place of Birth: R.M. OF ELTON
Parents Married: UNKNOWN
Maiden Last Name: BRUGE Given Names: JESSIE EMMELINE


REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1892-001284
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: FLORENCE RUTH
Sex: FEMALE Date of Birth: 27/11/1892
Place of Birth: BRANDON
Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
FATHER'S DETAILS
Maiden Last Name: BENGE Given Names: JESSIE


REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1895-006485
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: GRACE ERLET
Sex: FEMALE Date of Birth: 12/12/1894
Place of Birth: BRANDON
Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
Maiden Last Name: BERGE Given Names: JEASIE GROMMELINE


REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1897-004442
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: CAESAR AUGUSTUS
Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 24/12/1896
Place of Birth: BRANDON
Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
Maiden Last Name: BENGE Given Names: JESSIE EMMALINE


REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1904-005757
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: EDITH FANNY
Sex: FEMALE Date of Birth: 04/10/1904
Place of Birth: BRANDON
Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
Maiden Last Name: KATE Given Names: EDITH



REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1887-003305
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: STANLEY FRANK
Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 16/05/1887
Place of Birth: R.M. OF ELTON
Parents Married: UNKNOWN
Maiden Last Name: PRICKETT Given Names: EDITH KATE


REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1891-003701
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: ARTHUR GORDON
Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 24/06/1890
Place of Birth: R.M. OF ELTON
Parents Married: UNKNOWN
Maiden Last Name: N/S Given Names: N/S


REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1896-001517
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: ROBT WILLIAM
Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 21/10/1896
Place of Birth: R.M. OF ELTON
Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
Maiden Last Name: CRICKETT Given Names: EDITH KATE



REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1888-005071
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: WILLIAM HERBERT
Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 17/06/1888
Place of Birth: BRANDON
Parents Married: UNKNOWN
Maiden Last Name: PEACOCK Given Names: ANNIE DOROTHY


REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1893-005878
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: JOHN
Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 06/12/1892
Place of Birth: BRANDON
Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
Maiden Last Name: PEACOCK Given Names: ANNIE DORATHY


REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1895-004337
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: ANNIE MARTHA
Sex: FEMALE Date of Birth: 18/08/1895
Place of Birth: BRANDON
Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
Maiden Last Name: PEACOCK Given Names: ANNIE DOROTHY


REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1897-002715
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: ELIZABETH FRANCIS
Sex: FEMALE Date of Birth: 30/10/1897
Place of Birth: R.M. OF ELTON
Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
Maiden Last Name: PEACOCK Given Names: ANNIE DOROTHY


REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1900-004097
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: ARTHUR FRANK
Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 01/02/1900
Place of Birth: R.M. OF ELTON
Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
Maiden Last Name: PEACOCK Given Names: ANNIE DOROTHY


REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1902-006252
CHILD'S DETAILS
Last Name: TURLEY
Given Names: LORNE EDWARD
Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 08/08/1902
Place of Birth: R.M. OF ELTON
Parents Married: YES Mother's Marital Status: MARRIED
Maiden Last Name: PEACOCK Given Names: ANNIE DOROTHY



I didn't check SK at https://www.isc.ca/VitalStatistics/Genealogy/vsgs_srch.aspx

nor the CEF attestations at: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/index-e.html


Helenamae

Helenamae Report 28 Jun 2012 13:13

HI

A big big thnak you all for the wonderful amount of information and records and links !! I really appreicate you time and help! :-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 29 Jun 2012 00:26

1881 England Census
Civil parish: Brenchley
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: Paddock Wood
Registration district: Tunbridge
Sub-registration district: Brenchley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6

John Benge 37 Ewhurst, Sussex, England Head M Market Gardener (6 Acres)
Ruth Benge 45 Frant, Sussex, England Wife M
Miriam A. Benge 14 Sowe, Warwickshire, England Daughter Scholar
Jessie E. Benge 12 Tonbridge, Kent, England Daughter Scholar
Kate Benge 10 Tonbridge, Kent, England Daughter Scholar
Alfred H. Benge 5 Brenchley, Kent, England Son
James P. Benge 2 Brenchley, Kent, England Son

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 923; Folio: 14; Page: 22; GSU roll: 1341220.



http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/western-land-grants/001007-100.01-e.php

9. Part Section Township Range Meridian
SW 5 11 18 W1
Reference:
Volume: 3 Folio: 446 Microfilm reel number: C-5943
Names: Casar Augustus Turley
Letters Patent: Image [25/9/1883]

7. Part Section Township Range Meridian
SE 5 11 18 W1
Reference:
Volume: 6 Folio: 63 Microfilm reel number: C-5945
Names: Frank Turley
Letters Patent: Image [26/11/1883]

8. Part Section Township Range Meridian
SW 4 11 18 W1
Reference:
Volume: 11 Folio: 438 Microfilm reel number: C-5949
Names: William John Bridger Turley
Letters Patent: Image [13/6/1884]



6. Part Section Township Range Meridian
SW 18 9 17 W4
Reference:
Volume: 360 Folio: 160 Microfilm reel number: C-6223
Names: Junius Orlando Haws - Stanley Frank Turley Map

5. Part Section Township Range Meridian
NW 24 30 10 W3
Reference:
Volume: 401 Folio: 219 Microfilm reel number: C-6258
Names: Frank Turley Map

10. Part Section Township Range Meridian
NW 16 45 26 W3
Reference:
Volume: 442 Folio: 195 Microfilm reel number: C-6292
Names: Samuel Turley Map
[Sam doesn't look like one of our mob]

1. Part Section Township Range Meridian
Reference:
Volume: 516 Folio: 211 Microfilm reel number: C-6349
Names: William Herbert Turley Remarks: Unverified record: name, liber and folio numbers were found in the nominal index (aperture card books 1-36), but the record has yet to be matched to a homestead description.

4. Part Section Township Range Meridian
SW 6 31 9 W3
Reference:
Volume: 536 Folio: 21 Microfilm reel number: C-6364
Names: Arthur Gordon Turley Map

3. Part Section Township Range Meridian
NW 30 25 5 W1
Reference:
Volume: 737 Folio: 343 Microfilm reel number: C-6526
Names: Frederick J Turley

2. Part Section Township Range Meridian
Reference:
Volume: 758 Folio: 286 Microfilm reel number: C-6543
Names: William H Turley Remarks: Unverified record: name, liber and folio numbers were found in the nominal index (aperture card books 1-36), but the record has yet to be matched to a homestead description.


via search help:
LIBER DATES REEL NUMBER
3 Aug. 03, 1883 - Sept. 27, 1883 C-5943
6 Nov. 26, 1883 - Dec. 19, 1883 C-5945
11 May 17, 1884 - July 04, 1884 C-5948-C-5949
360 April 13, 1909 - April 19, 1909 C-6223
401 Feb. 18, 1910 - Feb. 26, 1910 C-6258
442 Feb. 09, 1911 - Feb. 19, 1911 C-6292-C-6293 [Samuel]
516 Oct. 11, 1912 - Oct. 21, 1912 C-6348-C-6349
536 March 03, 1913 - April 11, 1913 C-6364-C-6365
737 March 09, 1917 - March 22, 1917 C-6525-C-6526
758 Aug. 31, 1917 - Sept. 08, 1917 C-6543-C-6544


Under the Dominion Lands Act, settlers were entitled to free land, specifically, a quarter section (160 acres).
One did have to first file a homestead claim (with a $10 filing fee).
One then had to live on the land for 3 y, erect a dwelling, and get 40 acres under crop.
Variances were granted to allow brothers (as here) to, say, live on Frank's quarter section while they cleared their adjacent quarters, and then erect their dwellings in the 3rd year, say.
After 3 y, they could apply for letters patent (i.e., title), which was granted once it was seen they'd satisfied the conditions.

The Dominion Land Survey covered all the prairie provinces (AB, SK, MB).
The area was gridded into 1 mile x 1 mile sections.
Sections were grouped into 6 x 6 township blocks.
(See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Land_Survey for the section numbering)
The blocks were identified by a township # (a northing from the US border) and (usually a) westing # from some well defined meridian lines.



Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%)
LEPPARD Annie E.Grinstead 2b 238
Turley Caesar Augustus E. Grinstead 2b 238
Vickery George E. Grinstead 2b 238
BENGE Jessie Emmeline Llandilofawr 11a 1181 [image says E Grinstead 2b 238 correctn submd to FreeBMD]


Name: TURLEY, C a
Date of Arrival (YYYY/MM/DD) : 1888/05/15
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Ship: POLYNESIAN
Reference: RG 76
Microfilm: C-4536

Accompanied by Mrs Turley & (Mr) A Harris - headed for Brandon


Name: BENGE, Ruth
Age: 47
Date of Arrival (YYYY/MM/DD) : 1888/08/24
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Ship: PARISIAN
Reference: RG 76
Microfilm: C-4536

Accompanied by John 45 Printer?, Miriam 21, Kate 17, Alfred 11, James? 9 - bound for Brandon

Annie Peacock & Annie Easter just gave Quebec as their destination.


http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

GROOM'S LAST NAME: HARRIS
GROOM'S GIVEN NAMES: EDWARD
BRIDE'S LAST NAME: BENGE
BRIDE'S GIVEN NAMES: MIRIAM ANNIE DATE OF MARRIAGE: 23/05/1896
PLACE OF MARRIAGE: BRANDON
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1896,002124


GROOM'S LAST NAME: BENGE
GROOM'S GIVEN NAMES: ALFRED HENRY
BRIDE'S LAST NAME: WILSON
BRIDE'S GIVEN NAMES: EVA DATE OF MARRIAGE: 09/04/1902
PLACE OF MARRIAGE: BRANDON
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1902,001675


GROOM'S LAST NAME: DYSON
GROOM'S GIVEN NAMES: STUART
BRIDE'S LAST NAME: BENGE
BRIDE'S GIVEN NAMES: FRANCES HELEN DATE OF MARRIAGE: 03/01/1931
PLACE OF MARRIAGE: KILLARNEY
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1931,003140
REGISTRATION DATE:




I've been thinking - we know from the homestead claims that Frank and Caeser were here by 1880 (so they should be on the Canadian 1881 census, even though I can't find them).
It's likely that William came out with them, although he could have been in either country for the 1881 census.
I didn't see a passage to Canada for them, but there was no rail link between Winnipeg and the Lakehead (now Thunder Bay) back then.
There was a rail link via the Red River Valley to Chicago by Dec 1878, so they might well have travelled to the USA, and then entered Canada at Emerson, and then proceeded to Brandon via Winnipeg.

http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/transactions/3/eganrailway.shtml

The construction contract for the 200km line to Brandon had been let and construction begun by then, but it didn't go beyond Portage la Prairie, 80km from Winnipeg by Feb 1881 (when the CPR was formed).
By the time Annie came, there was a railroad from the Lakehead to Brandon (indeed to the Rockies) via Winnipeg. There
The line along the N shore of L Superior would be completed in 1885, as would the line thru the Rockies to Vancouver.

mgnv

mgnv Report 29 Jun 2012 00:26


Drilling down at the LAC portal:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html
to the census links page: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-911.009-e.html

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148097-00044.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148097-00460.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148097-00015.pdf

An 1891 look up for Benge fails, but LAC use the same transcription as Ancestry 1871-1891, so a free look up for Ruth, spouse of John in MB gets:

Exact Search Results - 1891 Census of Canada
View Record Name Parent or spouse names Home in 1891 (Sub-District, District, Province) Birth Year Birthplace Relation View Images
View Record Ruth Benger John township, Selkirk, Manitoba abt 1836 location info

I used the old style search. I don't have a sub, so I don't get full details, but I do now know how her surname is transcribed.


For 1916, enter district=Kindersley and 50 hits per page (there's 48) and look up at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1916/index-e.html

You want subdistrict 20 image 21 of 26 (addy=1st St, town of Zealandia, Wm immig 1880)
You want subdistrict 21 (div B) image 11 of 20 (Frank & Stan addy=T30 R10 W3M)
You want subdistrict 24 (div B) image 3 of 14 (Arthur G & Robt W addy=T31 R9 W3M)

http://sain.scaa.sk.ca/items/index.php/main-st-zealandia-sask-1909;rad


http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/post-offices/001001-100.01-e.php
Zealandia Sec.34, Twp.30, R.13, W3 - 1906-04-01
Ardath Sec.10, Twp.31, R.9, W3 - 1910-06-01

These enumerators didn't give section #s, but Art's S6 would be 3 m W and 1 m S of Ardath, which itself was 24 m E and 2 m N of Zealandia.
6SW-31-9-W3 was 2.5 m N and 1 m E of 24NW-30-10-W3.

Helenamae

Helenamae Report 29 Jun 2012 15:21

Wow!! A lot of historical data to get through. Thank you. It will take me awhile to get through it all but I have read some sections. Yes I haven't been able to track William's movements from England to Canada, I have even looked at some documents where he goes under the name of C.B. Turley.