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Peter
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23 Jun 2012 20:57 |
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Could anyone do a 1901 & 1911 Census search please. I am trying to locate details for William James born c1877 in Litchurch, Derby. Litchurch Derby was an area in Derby, not to be confused with Litchurch Staffordshire. In 1900 he was living in Derby. He was living in Grantham after 1900 with his wife Betsy Milward born c1878. It would really be appreciated if someone could kindly find the census details for William & others in his household & addresses for 1901 & 1911. Many thanks
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JustDinosaurJill
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23 Jun 2012 21:02 |
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Is this the right one?
I did input Litchurch as the location
1911 Census Household Record Household information Address 25 Litchurch St Derby Parish Derby Town Derby Type of Building Private House Number of Rooms 5 Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN20890 RG78PN1247A RD435 SD2 ED19 SN180 Administrative County Derbyshire Registration District Derby Registration Sub District Derby Enumeration District 19 Householder 1 Name John James Relationship to Head of Household Head Condition / Years Married / Years Gender M Age 59 Estimated Year of Birth 1852 Occupation Brass Founders Helper Employed Y Working at Home N Industry M R Loco Place of Birth Gloucster Turk Dean Householder 2 Name Sarah James Relationship to Head of Household Wife Total Children Born Alive 4 Children Still Living 3 Children Who Have Died 1 Gender F Age 54 Estimated Year of Birth 1857 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Derby Householder 3 Name William James Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 33 Estimated Year of Birth 1878 Occupation Motor Engineer Employed Y Working at Home N Industry Royce Rolls Coy Place of Birth Derby Householder 4 Name Cyril James Relationship to Head of Household Grandson Gender M Age 5 Estimated Year of Birth 1906 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Burton On Trent Staffs Householder 5 Name Thomas Duaycott Relationship to Head of Household Boarder Condition / Years Married / Years Gender M Age 23 Estimated Year of Birth 1888 Occupation Locomotive Fireman Employed Y Working at Home N Industry M Railway Place of Birth Leicester Householder 6 Name Alfred William Earl Relationship to Head of Household Boarder Condition / Years Married / Years Gender M Age 20 Estimated Year of Birth 1891 Occupation App Electrical Engineer Employed Y Working at Home N Industry M R E Dept Place of Birth Derry Bellarena Householder 7 Name William Roeve Relationship to Head of Household Visitor Gender M Age 54 Estimated Year of Birth 1857 Occupation Railway Labourer Employed Y Working at Home N Industry M R W W Dept Place of Birth Harts Hamstead
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JustDinosaurJill
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23 Jun 2012 21:05 |
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I can't find him on the 1901 but I regularly can't find people on that one.
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MillymollyAmanda
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23 Jun 2012 21:09 |
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1901 ?
Address is 28 Victoria St and James is down as a Fitter ...steam engine Name: William James Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Betsy James Gender: Male Where born: Derby, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Spittlegate Ecclesiastical parish: Grantham St John the Evangelist and Spittlegate County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
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View image Registration district: Grantham Sub-registration district: Grantham North ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 154 Piece: 3055 Folio: 130 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age William James 23 Betsy James 22 Thomas H Millward 21 Jona Millward 19 Alice J Downing 45 Ladye B Downing 8 View Original Record
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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23 Jun 2012 21:21 |
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1911 England Census about William James Name: William James Age in 1911: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Derby, England Civil parish: Derby County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address: 25 Litchurch St Occupation: Motor Engineer Rolls Royce Coy*********** Registration district: Derby Registration District Number: 435 Sub-registration district: Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Piece: 20890 Household Members: Name Age Jhon James 59 Sarah James 54 William James 33 Cycil James 5 Thomas Derrycott 23 Alfred William Earl 20 William Rowe 54
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Catherine
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23 Jun 2012 21:27 |
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Another version of 1911:-
JAMES, John Head Married M 59 1852 Brass Founders Helper Gloucster Turk Dean JAMES, Sarah Wife F 54 1857 Derby JAMES, William Son M 33 1878 Motor Engineer Derby JAMES, Cyril Grandson M 5 1906 Burton on Trent Staffs DUAYCOTT, Thomas Boarder Single M 23 1888 Locomotive Fireman Leicester EARL, Alfred William Boarder Single M 20 1891 App Electrical Engineer Derry Bellarena ROEVE, William Visitor M 54 1857 Railway Labourer Harts Hamstead
William noted as being married 11 yrs. 3 children all living.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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23 Jun 2012 21:34 |
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I can't find Betsy on the 1911.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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23 Jun 2012 21:42 |
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Mandy can you find Betsy on the 1911??
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Catherine
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23 Jun 2012 21:47 |
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I can't find her either? There is this that could fit
Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%) JAMES Betsy 26 Nottingham 7b 181
but William is not noted as widow in 1911????
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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23 Jun 2012 21:50 |
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Yes I looked at that!
So what are the names of his children?????
Is Cyril the grandchild on the 1911 William's son?
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MarieCeleste
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23 Jun 2012 21:52 |
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Peter - do you know William's date of birth?
The 1901 suggests he worked on the Railways and there are a few records in The Railway Employment Records that may cast some light.
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MillymollyAmanda
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23 Jun 2012 21:54 |
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No Mel, carn't see her in the 1911
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Catherine
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23 Jun 2012 21:56 |
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Yes! William son of John (Head of household) and Cyril Grandson. He is noted just under William so presumably he is the son of William but it is not stated in the census that he is actually the son of William?
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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23 Jun 2012 22:00 |
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I was only thinking out loud Catherine. I have viewed the 1911.
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Peter
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23 Jun 2012 22:02 |
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To Update my thread. Sorry only got William's dob as c1877. Didn't know about Betsy death but could be feasable. I think they had 2 children Ione & Gladys both c1902 but cannot confirm twins dates only about. He worked at Rolls Royce for some time. Don'y have anything at all about cyril Hope this helps
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Catherine
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23 Jun 2012 22:08 |
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Peter, could you confirm the twins names as( Lone) and Gladys ?
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MarieCeleste
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23 Jun 2012 22:13 |
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I think the name is Ione (capital i):
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Ione May James Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1901 Registration district: Grantham Inferred County: Leicestershire, Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 488a
There are these births in Grantham, but nothing that looks like twins:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Jun 1901 JAMES Ione May Grantham 7a 488a
Births Sep 1902 James Gladys Bette Grantham 7a 499 Births Dec 1903 James John Grantham 7a 460 Births Sep 1906 James Lois Grantham 7a 460
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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23 Jun 2012 22:16 |
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Gladys Bette James Name: Gladys Bette James Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1902 Registration district: Grantham Inferred County: Leicestershire, Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 499 Not twins
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MillymollyAmanda
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23 Jun 2012 22:19 |
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1911 ??
Name: William James Age in 1911: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Ranton, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Gainsborough County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address: 151 Ropery Rd Gainsboro Marital Status: Married Occupation: Flanging Furnace Man In Boiler Shop Registration district: Gainsborough Registration District Number: 425 Sub-registration district: Gainsborough ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 20148 Household Members: Name Age William James 41 Betsy Jane James 40 William Henry James 19 Gladys Evelyn James 14 Norah James 1 View image
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Catherine
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23 Jun 2012 22:26 |
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Found a marriage for Ione:-
Marriages Dec 1935 (>99%) James Ione M O'Donovan Battersea 1d 810 O'Donovan Michael James Battersea 1d 810
.........but can't find her in 1911???
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