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Charles J Horsey
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1809 (City),? Middlesex,? England
census: 1881 Islington,? Middlesex,? England


name: Charles J Horsey
age: 72
gender: Male
birth year: 1809
birthplace: (City), Middlesex, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Widower
profession/occupation: Retired
address: 22 Hemingford Rd
census place: Islington, Middlesex, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341051
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 233 / 117
page number: 58

Charles Jas Horsey
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1809 London,? Middlesex
residence: 1871 Islington,? London,? Middlesex,? England
children: Amelia Horsey,? Emmiline Horsey


name: Charles Jas Horsey
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 62
relationship to head of household: Self
birthplace: London, Middlesex
record type: Household
registration district: Islington
sub-district: Islington, West
event parish: Islington
county: London, Middlesex

Ann Simmonds
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 16 Sep 1806
christening: 27 Oct 1811 REDBOURN,? HERTFORD,? ENGLAND
residence: 1806 Redbourn,? Hertford,? England
parents: Henry Simmonds,? Mary Ann


name: Ann Simmonds
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 27 Oct 1811
baptism/christening place: REDBOURN, HERTFORD, ENGLAND
birth date: 16 Sep 1806
father's name: Henry Simmonds
mother's name: Mary Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C07277-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040656

Amelia Horsey
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1842 Islington,? Middlesex
residence: 1871 Islington,? London,? Middlesex,? England
parents: Charles Jas Horsey


name: Amelia Horsey
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Female
age: 29
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Islington, Middlesex
record type: Household
registration district: Islington
sub-district: Islington, West
event parish: Islington
county: London, Middlesex

Emmiline Horsey
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1846 Islington,? Middlesex
residence: 1871 Islington,? London,? Middlesex,? England
parents: Charles Jas Horsey


name: Emmiline Horsey
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Female
age: 25
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Islington, Middlesex
record type: Household
registration district: Islington
sub-district: Islington, West
event parish: Islington
county: London, Middlesex

On deceased online a maybe, all buried in the same grave.

Charles James Horsey buried 09 Nov 1885
Jane Horsey buried 23rd August 1867
Fidd Chas Horsey buried 21st August 1866
Ann Horsey buried 21st Jan 1861

Grave Ref.H/2/2610
Islington Cemetery
London Borough of Islington

Edit Jan qarter of 1861
Ann Horsey Death 1b 215 Islington
They appear to have left off the "e"

Two probates found dont know if they are yours I have saved the image if you want to have a look.

15th December 1885. The personal estate of Amelia Horsey late of 22 Hemingford Road Islington in the conty of Middlesex - spinster who died 28th. Janarry 1881
at St Thomas's Hosptial in the county of Surrey was granted at the Principal registry office to Mary Ann Crosby (wife of George Crosby) of 93, Arlington Street, Islington thre administratrix (with will) of the personal estate of Michael Frith the universal legatee. - £905 0s 7d

11th December 1885 The will of Charles James Horsey late of 22, Hemingford Road in the county of Middlesex - gentleman - who died 5th. November 1885 at 22, Hemingford Road was proved at the prinicpal registry office by Amelia Horsey of 22, Hemingford Road widow the relict the sole excetrix £403. 12s 11d

Bit confused - did he marry an Amelia as when he died his wife was named as Amelia as was the Amelia who died in 1881 assme this one was his daughter?

Jolee

The information about the grave is fascinating and it would appear you have found the missing death - Ann died before the 1861 Census. How did you manage to trace it? Could help with other queries I have.

With the details, I can order her certificate.

The wills are both interesting and confusing. I can recognise Amelia, the daugther who died in 1881, but will need to dig deeper to find out who Mary Ann Crosby is.

The will of Charles James horsey is really confusing. Must now look for a marriage after 1881 as Census showed him a widower.

Many many thanks

Arthur

daughter Amelia dob 1842

Deathbed marriage??

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Horsey Charles James Islington 1b 606
Thomas Amelia Islington 1b 606

and.

Address is somewhere in Hemlingford Road.

Next door are Sarah and Richard Thomas

1891 England Census
about Amelia Horsey
Name: Amelia Horsey
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 155
Folio: 161
Page Number: 50
Household Members: Name Age
Amelia Horsey 48 widow
Robert B North 24
Edward E Friend 23
Alick E Friend 26





Andy

Andrew

Thanks for the surprise - I will get the certificate.

My family never ceases to amaze me.

I think this is Amelia in 1911, although she has aged a bit!

Richard Thomas should be the same person living next door in 1891 census - occupation is the same

THOMAS, Richard Head Married M 44 1867 Barristers Clerk London Islington VIEW
THOMAS, Elizabeth Ann Wife Married F 32 1879 Isle of Wight VIEW
HORSEY, Amelia Aunt Widow F 73 1838 London Marylebone VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 7715
Reference: RG14PN7715 RG78PN380 RD140 SD2 ED17 SN160
Registration District: Watford
Sub District: Watford
Enumeration District: 17
Parish: Watford Urban
Address: 231 Harwoods Road Watford
County: Hertfordshire


Probate record

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Amelia Horsey
Name: Amelia Horsey
Probate Date: 15 Apr 1913
Death Date: 2 Mar 1913
Death Place: Hertfordshire, England
Registry: London, England

Effects £355 19s 2d
Address as census
Richard Thomas dealing

Andy

1901 for completeness

1901 England Census
about Richard Thomas
Name: Richard Thomas
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Barnsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 149
Piece: 179
Folio: 55
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Thomas 34
Annie Horsey 64
Sarah Thomas 65
Kate Tensh 68
Charles Tensh 48




Andy

I have fond a marriage in 1859 between George Crosby and Mary Ann Frith, but have not found them with a Michael I suppose he could have been her brother, just as an afterthought could Amelia the daughter been a sponser to Michael as the Frith family were and still are as far as I know in the art and photography line.

Sorry abot any mispells the u on my pooter is playing up

Here's that 1859 marriage if it helps:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Mary Ann Frith, spinster
Spouse Name: George Crosby, bachelor - Customs House Officer
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Apr 1859
Parish: Bloomsbury St George
Borough: Camden
Father Name: John Frith - Builder
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Crosby - Dejer ???????
Register Type: Parish Register

Bride and groom both lived Kerton (Kenton?) Street, he at no 7 and her at no 10.

Witnesses: Thomas Slack (Stack?) and Ann Crosby.

This looks to be the 1861 for that couple:

CROSBY, George Head Married M 27 1834 Locker Her Majestys Customs Coventry, Warwickshire
CROSBY, Mary A Wife Married F 30 1831 Coventry, Warwickshire
CROSBY, Mary A Daughter F 1 1860 St Pancras, Middlesex
FRITH, Richard Brother In Law Unmarried M 22 1839 Watchmaker Coventry, Warwickshire
FRITH, Phoebe Sister In Law F 10 1851 Coventry, Warwickshire

Piece: 106 Folio: 57 Page: 46
Registration District: Pancras
Civil Parish: St Pancras

Address: 16, Sidmouth Street, St Pancras County: London

This is that Mary Ann in 1851, she does have a brother Michael:

FRITH, John Head Married M 46 1805 Builder Employing 7 Men & 1 App Coventry, Warwickshire
FRITH, Mary Wife Married F 41 1810 Coventry, Warwickshire
FRITH, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831 Coventry, Warwickshire
FRITH, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 Coventry, Warwickshire
FRITH, George Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Bricklayer Coventry, Warwickshire
FRITH, Michael Son M 12 1839 Scholar Coventry, Warwickshire
FRITH, John Son M 10 1841 Scholar Coventry, Warwickshire
FRITH, Eliza Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar Coventry, Warwickshire
FRITH, Eliza Daughter F 6 1845 Scholar Coventry, Warwickshire
FRITH, Phoebe Ann Daughter F 0 (10 MOS) 1851 Coventry, Warwickshire

Piece: 2068 Folio: 198 Page: 2
Registration District: Coventry
Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Municipal Borough: Coventry

Address: Cook Street, Holy Trinity, Coventry County: Warwickshire

By 1881 Michael is living with George and Mary Ann and their address is that on the probate record:

CROSBY, Geo Head Married M 47 1834 (C S) Custom House Officer Coventry, Warwickshire
CROSBY, Mary Ann Wife Married F 49 1832 Coventry, Warwickshire
CROSBY, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 21 1860 Drapers Assist St Pancras, Middlesex
CROSBY, Fred Son Single M 17 1864 Telegraph Engineer (App Makr) St Marys
CROSBY, Edith Daughter Single F 12 1869 School St Marys
CROSBY, Elina Daughter Single F 6 1875 School St Marys
FRITH, Michal Brother In Law Married M 42 1839 Commercial Traveller Coventry, Warwickshire

Piece: 266 Folio: 60 Page: 16
Registration District: Islington
Civil Parish: Islington

Address: 93, Arlington St, Islington County: London, Middlesex

But it looks like that Michael had died before 1885:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Michael Frith
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1881
Age at Death: 43
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 274

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Michael Frith
Probate Date: 9 Feb 1882
Death Date: 27 Dec 1881
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: Principal Registry

Effects £793 10s 10d. Gentleman, address as per 1881. Granted to MAry Ann Crosby the sister the universal legatee.

(No mention of a wife or widow although 1881 says married?)

Am going round in circles :-S