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Baird Hay

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cookie18

cookie18 Report 16 Jun 2012 15:54

Found 7 hints on Ancestry, could anybody do look ups please.

1891 & 1901 scotland census (father john mother elizabeth)
British Army WW1 pension record
1930 USA census (new york)
Border crosses from Canada to US (1895-1956)
New York census 1925
Uk incoming passenger list 1878-1968.

Sorry i have no subcription

Regards

sue

Astra

Astra Report 16 Jun 2012 15:58

This one??

VICARS, Mary Head Widow F 68 1823
Carron, Stirlingshire
N/A
VICARS, Thomas Son Unmarried M 32 1859 Iron Stone Miner
Govan, Lanarkshire
N/A
VICARS, Elizabeth Daughter Widow F 29 1862 Dairymaid
Govan, Lanarkshire
N/A
VICARS, Janet Niece Unmarried F 18 1873 Millworker
New Kilpk, Dunbartonshire
N/A
HAY, Alexander Grandson M 7 1884 Scholar
New Kilpk, Dunbartonshire
N/A
HAY, Robert Grandson M 4 1887 Scholar
New Kilpk, Dunbartonshire
N/A
HAY, Baird Grandson M 2 1889
Renfrew, Renfrewshire
N/A
Piece: 575 Folio: 9 Page: 11 Registration District: Renfrew Civil Parish: Renfrew Municipal Borough: Address: Anniesland Craigend Hos, Renfrew County: Renfrewshire


1901

VICKERS, Thomas Head Single M 44 1857 Brick Burner
Renfrew, Renfrewshire
N/A
VICKERS, Elizabeth Sister Widow F 40 1861 House Keeper
Skeeterigg, Lanarkshire
N/A
HAY, Alexander Nephew Single M 17 1884 Iron Moulder
Knightswood, Dumbartonshire
N/A
HAY, Robert Nephew Single M 14 1887 Van Boy
Knightswood, Dumbartonshire
N/A
HAY, Baird Nephew M 12 1889 Scholar
Renfrew, Renfrewshire
N/A
Piece: 575 Folio: 15 Page: 11 Registration District: Renfrew Civil Parish: Renfrew Municipal Borough: Address: 13, Craigend Houses, Renfrew County: Renfrewshire

Abby

Abby Report 16 Jun 2012 16:01

Name: Baird Hay
Event: Census
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Manhattan (Districts 1001-1249), New York, New York
Gender: Male
Age: 42
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Birthplace: Scotland
Estimated Birth Year: 1888
Immigration Year: 1922
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Enumeration District Number: 1085
Family Number: 686
Sheet Number and Letter: 25A
Line Number: 30
NARA Publication: T626, roll 1579
Film Number: 2341314
Digital Folder Number: 4639128
Image Number: 00484
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Baird Hay M 42 Scotland
Wife Rebecca Hay F 38 Scotland

Abby

Abby Report 16 Jun 2012 16:03

Name: Baird Hay
Arrival Date: 29 Oct 1922
Arrival Port: Montreal, Quebec, Scotland
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: 1888
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Renfrew,
Birth Country: Scotland
Gender: Male
Race: Scotch
Last Residence:
Accompanied by:
Departure Date:
Departure Port: Glasgow, Scotland
Departure Contact:
Arrival Contact:
Ship Name: Tunisian
Airline:
Record has photo?:
NARA Publication Title: Manifests of Passengers Arriving in the St. Albans, VT, District through Canadian Pacific and Atlantic Ports, 1895-1954
NARA Publication Number: M1464
NARA Roll Number: 450

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Jun 2012 16:12

K Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Baird Hay
Name: Baird Hay
Birth Date: abt 1888
Age: 42
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 22 Dec 1930
Port of Arrival: Glasgow, Scotland
Ports of Voyage: Londonderry
Ship Name: Transylvania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Transylvania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 148874

travelling with Rebbecca

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Jun 2012 16:14


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Rebecca Hay
Name: Rebecca Hay
Birth Date: abt 1892
Age: 38
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 22 Dec 1930
Port of Arrival: Glasgow, Scotland
Ports of Voyage: Londonderry
Ship Name: Transylvania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Transylvania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 148874

cookie18

cookie18 Report 16 Jun 2012 16:18

Thanks Astra & safc for some of the info

sue

Maddie also thanks

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 16 Jun 2012 16:19

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Baird Hay
Name: Baird Hay
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Age at enlistment: 25
Birth Parish: Annias and
Birth County: Renfrewshire
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 3019
Regiment Name: Gordon Highlanders
Number of images: 4

Wife Rebecca, not sure if the record states his wife is rebecca Alexandra, or that her maiden name is Alexander.

George

cookie18

cookie18 Report 16 Jun 2012 16:25

George,

No idea about his martial status, so a bonus, so could be any of them, thanks for your look up.

sue

Abby

Abby Report 16 Jun 2012 16:27

baird hay got married in scotland 1912

you will need

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

for info

cookie18

cookie18 Report 16 Jun 2012 16:32

Thanks safc will look it up

sue

cookie18

cookie18 Report 16 Jun 2012 16:45

Found marriage on scotlandspeople.

george& safc,
Her name was Rebecca Y Alexander. married 10/1 /1912

sue

cookie18

cookie18 Report 16 Jun 2012 17:04

Can anyone look up the 1925 New York census

Thanks
sue

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 16 Jun 2012 17:55

1925 Census

New York, State Census, 1925
about Baird Hay
Name: Baird Hay
Birth Date: abt 1889
Birth Place: Scotland
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Residence Place: New York, New York
Relationship: Head
Colour or Race: White
Number of Years in US: 02
Assembly District: 23
House Number: 403
Line Number: 07
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Baird Hay 36
Rebecca Hay 33
Matilda Garden 33


George

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jun 2012 19:00

This was Rebecca joining Baird in US:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Rebecca S Hay
Arrival Date: 6 Apr 1923
Birth Year: abt 1892
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: Glasgow, Scotland
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/RaceĀ­/Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Glasgow

Occupation: Housekeeper.

She was 5' 5" tall, fresh complexion, dark brown hair and gray eyes.

Her onward destination was Diamondville Wyoming where she was joining her husband Baird Hay. She intended to stay in US permanently.

NOK in Scotland was her brother John Alexander, 2 Eats Cambus Tce., Lambhill, Glasgow.

She made another trip in 1927 by which time their home address was 403 Audobon Ave., New York.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 16 Jun 2012 21:35

Baird Hay was probably the son of John Hay and Elizabeth Vicars who married in Renfrew, Renfrewshire in 1883, which concurs with the 1891 & 1901 census posted by Astra
There are births for 2 children called Baird Hay, both in 1888 but only one birth was registered in Renfrew, Renfrewshire ( possibly the same child registered in two different districts)

Anne

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Jun 2012 23:32

His arrival in canada in 1922:

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Baird Hay Name: Baird Hay
Arrival Date: 29 Oct 1922
Port of Arrival: St Albans, Vermont, United States
Ship Name: Tunisian
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Age: 34
Birth Date: abt 1888
Birth Country: Scotland
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Record Type: Manifests


His destination was Diamondville, Wyoming. Nearest relative at home was wife Mrs. Baird Hay (Rebecca), 8 Crawford St., Lambhill, Glasgow. He was going to join relative Mrs J. (can't make out name), Diamondville, Wyoming. I think it says uncle in brackets?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Jun 2012 12:20

Possible for Rebecca in 1901? (New Blackhill is only a couple of miles from Lambhill)

You will have the names of her parents from her marriage entry to confirm.

Name: Rebecca Alexander
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Hugh Alexander
Mother's name: Mary Alexander
Gender: Female
Where born: Cadder, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 626A/1
Registration district: Cadder Western District
Civil parish: Cadder
County: Lanarkshire
Address: New Blackhill
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 142
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1901_250
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh Alexander 48 b. Ireland, Colliery Enginekeeper
Mary Alexander 42 b. New Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire
John Alexander 20 b. New Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire, Colliery Enginekeeper
Elizabeth Alexander 12 b. Cadder, Lanarkshire
Rebecca Alexander 9
Alexander Alexander 6 b. Cadder, Lanarkshire
Adam Alexander 3 b. Cadder, Lanarkshire


1891

Name: Hugh Alexander
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Alexander
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 626A/1
Registration district: Cadder Western District
Civil parish: Cadder Western District
County: Lanarkshire
Address: BalmuildyCottages
Occupation: Colliery Engine Keeper
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 109
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1891_227
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh Alexander 39
Mary Alexander 32
Mary Alexander 12 b. New Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire
John Alexander 10
Alice Alexander 7
Elizabeth Alexander 2

1881

Name: Hugh Alexander
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Alexander
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 500
Registration district: New Kilpatrick
Civil parish: New Kilpatrick
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: 12 Knightswood Rows
Occupation: Pit Enginekeeper
ED: 9
Household schedule number: 36
Line: 9
Roll: cssct1881_146
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh Alexander 29
Mary Alexander 23
Mary Alexander 2
John Alexander 1 Mo

1871

Name: Hugh Alexander
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Alexander Alexander
Mother's name: Alice Alexander
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 500
Registration district: New Kilpatrick
Civil parish: New Kilpatrick
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: 21 Knightswood
Occupation: Ironstone Miner
ED: 9
Household schedule number: 24
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1871_88
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Alexander 50 b. Ireland, Ironstone Miner
Alice Alexander 44 b. Ireland
Hugh Alexander 20
James Alexander 18 b. Ireland, Ironstone Miner
Margaret Alexander 16 b. Ireland
John Alexander 14 b. Ireland, Ironstone Drawer
William Alexander 11 b. Old Cumnock, Ayrshire, Ironstone Miner
Alice J Alexander 7 b. E Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire
Joseph Thomson 13 Relative, b. Auchinleck, Ayrshire, Ironstone Drawer
Elizabeth Thomson 10 Relative, b. Auchinleck, Ayrshire
James Beattie 34 Boarder, b. Ireland
George Currie 26 Boarder, b. Glasgow


The birth certificate from Scotlandspeople of Alice J Alexander will give you the date and place of Alexander and Alice's marriage. If they died in Scotland then their death certificates will give you the names of their parents if the informant knew the details.



1861

Name: Alexander Alexander
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Ellar Alexander
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 610
Registration district: Old Cumnock
Civil parish: Old Cumnock
County: Ayrshire
Address: No 7 Longhouse
Occupation: Labourer
ED: 8
Household schedule number: 9
Line: 25
Roll: CSSCT1861_89
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Alexander 40
Ellar Alexander 34
Elizabeth Alexander 15
Hugh Alexander 10
James Alexander 8
Margaret Alexander 6
John Alexander 4
William Alexander 2





cookie18

cookie18 Report 19 Jun 2012 16:41

Sorry for the late reply.

Thanks all of you for all the great info you have given me. it now ties up a lot of loose ends.

regards
sue