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thanks everybody for your excellent help today.

Elizabeth's parents. ?


Marriages Sep 1917

Gibson Elsie - Smickersgill - Hunslet 9b 869
Smickersgill Fred H -Gibson - Hunslet 9b 869

Marriages Dec 1940

Hairyes Sidney - Smickersgill - Leeds 9b 1089
Smickersgill Elizabeth H - Hairyes - Leeds 9b 1089

Be interesting to see who he names as his father(if any) on his marriage cert
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His wife's birth ?

Births Mar 1921
Smickersgill Elizabeth H -Gibson - Bramley 9b 417

Deaths Dec 1948
Hairyes Mary C -74 - Leeds 2c 386


To be sure of Mary's name(s) you need Sidney's birth certificate.

thanks everyone for your fantastic help in this matter,you are the best site online. I will listne to you excellent advice once again.thanks

can anyone give the brith and death sidneys mother please i got it wrong ?please and a marriage and birth for his wife?

is there a marrige for sidney hairyes please I apolize i must have got wrong name for his mother,does it have a full name for sidneys mother?

Buy the birth cert and see what it says - that is your ONLY hope

You can't do FH without incurring some expenditure

And keep to one thread per topic, please.

hi everyone thanks for information thus far. is there a marriage certificate for sidney hairyes that anyone can find would that have sidneys father on ?can anyone suugest any possble ways of finding sidneys father?

Not just other websites (that doesnt matter really) but there are 11 other threads on here posted by Nicholas for the same family

HAIRYES have been covered extensively on other website

If the mother registered the birth, and didn't say her husband was dead, he would be named as the father - by default

I bet there is no father named on the birth cert

You give his mother's name, but no indication of where you got the info

Are you perhaps guessing, based on the marriage you have mentioned?



1911 census

Person: HAIRYES, George Address: 107 Upper Wortley View Wortley Leeds

HAIRYES, George Head Married M 36 1875 Press Setter Woollens Yorks Leeds VIEW
HAIRYES, Mary Wife Married F 36 1875 Piecener Yorks Huddersfield VIEW
BARNARD, Beatrice Daughter Single F 8 1903 Lancashire

GB.
Think it´s Knaresborough

yep !

Marriages Jun 1899 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

****Barnard George - Bramley 9b 678
****England Mary Caroline - Bramley 9b 678
Lister Laura Bramley 9b 678
Orriell John William Bramley 9b 678

1911 presume this family - note the name of Barnard

Name: Mary Hairyes
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Armley and Bramley
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 107 Upper Wortley View
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Viecener
Registration district: Bramley
Registration District Number: 499
Sub-registration district: Wortley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 26874
Household Members: Name Age
George Hairyes 36
Mary Hairyes 36
Beatice Barnard 8

Where is kransbourgh ?

Is this a marriage date -
oct nov dec 1909

Maybe Mary was married before


Marriages Dec 1909

BARNARD Mary Caroline - Bramley 9b 681
HAIRYES George - Bramley 9b 681
STEPHENSON Louisa Bramley 9b 681
TIPPLE Walter James Bramley 9b 681

That is what I found also

Do you have a birth cert giving the name of mother as Mary Caroline Bernard