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Hi Suzanne,
Thanks for the information, which is really useful. It was always a story within the family that it was believed that Eleanor and Elizabeth were sisters, but I was unable to link them correctly.
Yes I am related to the Lewis family in Blaennedd now. My parents live at Blaennedd Uchaf and I grew up there.
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Hi Suzanne, in case Martin isn't checking back here (it's been a few months) why not click on his name and send a message to him?
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Hello Martin
I believe you are related to my husband. Eleanor and Elizabeth's surname was Rees. They also had a brother Morgan who married Howel Lewis (Hendre Bolan's)sister Gwenllian. The parents were Morgan and Margaret Rees.There is a farm in Ystradfellte called Bwlch, so that may be where the confusion arose. Are you related to the Lewis' in Blaennedd now?
Suzanne
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Hi Alviegel,
You have put down two census' with different Lewis', but the funny thing is they are both census' of my family so that's why I am havig some difficulties as they are both my family but at times I am mixing them up.
My grandfather Howell Lewis' father was Thomas Lewis and they are from the ystradfellte and Howell Lewis' mother was Margarent Lewis and she was also from ystradfellte.
It was always believed that Howell's greatgrandmother's on his father's side (Elenor) and mother's side (Elizabeth) were sisters.
I have found that based on census' they are Eleanor born about 1827 in Llangynwyd and on another census Elizabeth born about 1819 in Llangynwyd. Although I cannot seem to trace them.
Can someone help me.
Thanks
Martin
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1891 census transcription details for: Cordyganey, Ystradvelltey, Ystradfellte
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 4464
Folio: 12
Page: 5
Reg. District: Neath
Sub District: Ystradvelltey
Parish: Ystradvelltey
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: Ystradfellte
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Cordyganey, Ystradvelltey, Ystradfellte
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LEWIS, Thomas Head Married M 70 1821 Farmer
Ystradfellte, Brecknockshire
LEWIS, Elianor Wife Married F 65 1826 Farmer Wife
Llangynwyd, Glamorganshire
LEWIS, Mary Daughter Single F 30 1861
Ystradfellte, Brecknockshire
>>LEWIS, Lewis Son Single M 29 1862 Son
Ystradfellte, Brecknockshire
LEWIS, Thomas Grandson M 2 1889
Ystradfellte, Brecknockshire
or maybe
1891 census transcription details for: Hendrebellon, Ystradvelltey, Ystradfellte
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 4464
Folio: 3
Page: 2
Reg. District: Neath
Sub District: Ystradvelltey
Parish: Ystradvelltey
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: Ystradfellte
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Hendrebellon, Ystradvelltey, Ystradfellte
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LEWIS, Howell Head Married M 71 1820 Farmer
Ystradfellte, Breconshire
LEWIS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 73 1818
Neath, Glamorganshire
>>LEWIS, Lewis Son Single M 28 1863 Farm Labourer
Ystradfellte, Breconshire
FIELD, Hannah Servant F 12 1879 General Servant
Hirwain, Glamorganshire
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1881 census transcription details for: Hendrebollen, Ystradvelltey (Brecon)
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 5343
Folio: 3
Page: 1
Reg. District: Neath
Sub District: Ystradvelltey
Parish: Ystradvelltey (Brecon)
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Hendrebollen, Ystradvelltey (Brecon)
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LEWIS, Howell Head Married M 61 1820 Farmer Of 156 Acres
Ystradfellte, Brecknockshire, Wales
LEWIS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 61 1820
Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales
LEWIS, Lewis Son Single M 18 1863 Farmer Son
Ystradfellte, Brecknockshire, Wales
REES, Margaret Servant Single F 16 1865 General Serv
Ystradfellte, Brecknockshire, Wales
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1871 census transcription details for: Pentre Truscott, Ystradfellte
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 5433
Folio: 18
Page: 9
Reg. District: Neath
Sub District: Ystradfellte Lower Division
Parish: Ystradfellte
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Pentre Truscott, Ystradfellte
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
REES, Morgan Head M 58 1813 Glamorgan
REES, Margaret Mother F 88 1783 Glamorgan
REES, Margaret Niece F 7 1864 Glamorgan
EVANS, David Servant M 32 1839 Carmarthenshire
>>LEWIS, Elizabeth Sister F 50 1821 Glamorgan
>>LEWIS, Lewis Nephew M 8 1863 Breconshire
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Thank you for all your great advice, I have sent for the marriage certificates and thank you for identifying the 1911 census as I could not locate it as Lewis Lewis is down as 55 which would make his birth 1856 when I believe that he was born in 1864.
The main problem that I have found is that my Lewis side of my family is a little difficult to locate. My Lewis side of the family are mainly from Ystradfellte area I believe.
I would apreciate any other advice and information.
Thanks
Martin
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1911 census transcription details for: Taicanol Ystradfellte
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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN32652 RG78PN1863 RD592 SD2 ED34 SN36
Reg. District: Neath
Sub District: Neath
Parish: Ystradfellte
Enum. District: 34
Address: Taicanol Ystradfellte
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
LEWIS, Lewis Head Married
19 years M 55 1856 Farmer Glamorgan Glynneath
LEWIS, Tegswen Wife Married
19 years F 40 1871 Glamorgan Glynneath
LEWIS, Maggie Daughter Single F 18 1893 Farmer Daughter Dairy Work Breconshire Ystradfellte
LEWIS, Howel Son M 14 1897 Farmer Son Shepherd Breconshire Ystradfellte
LEWIS, Bessie Daughter F 11 1900 Breconshire Ystradfellte
LEWIS, David Son M 9 1902 Breconshire Ystradfellte
LEWIS, Lewis Son M 1 1910 Breconshire Ystradfellte
LEWIS, Jane Daughter F 5 1906 Breconshire Ystradfellte
7 children had been born to them but 1 had died.
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Start with the marriage certificate
Marriages Jun 1912
Lewis Margaret - Lewis- Neath 11a 1368
Lewis Thomas - Lewis - Neath 11a 1368
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Would this be Tegwen , Lewis and Margaret??
1901 census transcription details for: 12, Llandrebolon, Ystradvelltey (Brecon)
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 5059
Folio: 6
Page: 3
Reg. District: Neath
Sub District: Ystradvelltey
Parish: Ystradvelltey (Brecon)
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: Ystradfellte
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 12, Llandrebolon, Ystradvelltey (Brecon)
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LEWIS, Elizabeth Head Widow F 82 1819 Farmer
Llangynwyd, Glamorganshire
>>LEWIS, Lewis Son Married M 37 1864 Farmer Son
Ystradfellte, Brecknockshire
>>LEWIS, Tegwen Wife Married F 30 1871
Ystradfellte, Brecknockshire
>>LEWIS, Maggie Daughter F 8 1893
Ystradfellte, Brecknockshire
LEWIS, Howel Son M 5 1896
Ystradfellte, Brecknockshire
LEWIS, Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1900
Ystradfellte, Brecknockshire
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Hello Martin, do you mean his parents were married in 1912?
With a name like Lewis you really need to order his parents marriage certificate to confirm who their fathers were.
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My grandfather's name was Howell Lewis and he was born 16.08.1920.
His parents were Thomas Lewis and Margaret Lewis and they were born in Neath 1912.
Margaret Lewis died 10.02.1933 and she was 40 years old, it states on death certificate that she died at Blaennedd Isaf Farm, Ystradfellte. Therefore I believe that Margaret Lewis must have been born in 1892 or 1893. I had believed that Margaret was born at Bwlch just outside Brecon and her parents were Tegwen and Lewis Lewis but I cant seem to trace them on the census and I do not know where I am going wrong.
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