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Irish Marriage details

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Tricia

Tricia Report 12 Jun 2012 13:25

John M'Cann married Ann M'Calister on July 21st 1891 in the Ballymena registration district of Co.Antrim. I have found them on the I.G.I. site. but how do I found out the details of parents and place etc?. Could someone help a Newbie to Irish Genealogy please. Thank you, Tricia H.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jun 2012 13:30

www.nidirect.gov.uk/order-a-birth-adoption-death-marriage-or-civil-partnership-certificate

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Jun 2012 14:37

Tricia...Do you know anything else about the couple..Did they stay in Ireland...?
Anything at all will help....

Potty

Potty Report 12 Jun 2012 15:16

This is the marriage registration (from familysearch site)

name: John M'Cann
registration district: Ballymena
event type: MARRIAGES
registration quarter and year: Jul - Sep 1891
volume number: 1
page number: 151

You can order a copy of the cert from here:

www.groireland.ie/

Maura

Maura Report 12 Jun 2012 15:45

21/07/1891 CLOUGH Roman Catholic, Ballymena Co antrim
John McCann
address Cargin
age F/A
occupation miner
Father Bernard McCann a labourer
Ann McAllister
age F/A
address Cargin
occupation Lady
Father Charles McAllister a labourer
Witnesses Patrick Fyfe & Ann MCann

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Jun 2012 16:06

Tricia...If you check out 1901 Census Ireland..and look at Village of Cargin (Crumlin) there are Fyfes and McCann's living there...probably family of John.

Maura

Maura Report 12 Jun 2012 18:12

There's a public tree on ancestry, with the McCann's on it

Father Bernard McCann
Mother Mary Young
They married in Scotland 1849
Children
Hugh 1849 Scotland
William 1850 Scotland
The rest born in Co Antrim
Malcolm 1853
Mary 1855
John c1856
Patrick 1860
Margaret 1865
Francis 1867
Bernard 1868
Ann 1869
Ellen 1871


Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Jun 2012 19:32

Maura...Fits with family/ies 1901 Census....

Residents of a house 23 in Village of Cargan (Crumlin, Antrim)

Mc Cann William 49 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Scotland Iron Ore Miner Read and write - Not Married -
Mc Cann Mary 78 Female Mother Roman Catholic Scotland House Keeper Cannot read - Widow -
Walsh Maggie Ellen 18 Female Niece Roman Catholic County Antrim Housework Read and write - Not Married -
Mc Cann Ellen 27 Female Sister Roman Catholic County Antrim Dressmaker

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Jun 2012 19:38

1911 Hugh McCann....Dony know where William has gone.

Residents of a house 21 in Cargan (c) (Newtown Crommelin, Antrim)

McCann Hugh 61 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Scotland Farmer Read and write - Widower - 27 10 10
McCann Anne Jane 27 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Antrim - - Single - - - -
McCann William 20 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Antrim Iron Ore Miner Single - - - -
McCann Patrick 16 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Antrim Iron Ore Miner Single - - - -
McCann Francis John 14 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Antrim -

Hugh was living No 9 (1901) with all his children but was a widow.

Maura

Maura Report 12 Jun 2012 19:44

The tree on ancestry has a ton of information on the McCann's, I can confirm most of the childrens birth, but John not 1 of them. They have Mary dying in Scotland 1901

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Jun 2012 19:51

Mmmmm

I am beginning to wonder about the above families listed ,,,I dont see a Bernard (son) or a Mary (daughter) in them bit odd that...

Wonder if Tricia has any more info.

The said Eliz. above is living Ballyurgan,,,1901/1911

Maura

Maura Report 12 Jun 2012 20:06

According to the tree Hugh is suppose to be Bernard father, there also a brother Malcolm died 1848

Dungonnell Townland, Dunaghy County Antrim (1851)
Patrick Mccann, Father, W, 82, None, County Antrim,
Hugh Mccann, Head, M, 61, Farmer, County Antrim,
Mary Mccann, Wife, M, 57, None, County Antrim,
Patrick Mccann, Son, U, 27, Agriculturallabourer, County Antrim,
Mary Mccann, Daughter, U, 24, None, County Antrim,
Susan Mccann, Daughter, U, 22, Linen Weaver, County Antrim,
Ellen Mccann, Daughter, U, 16, Linen Weaver, County Antrim,
Mary Walsh, GrandDaughter, U, 1, None, County Antrim,

Maura

Maura Report 12 Jun 2012 20:07

Dungonnell Townland, Dunaghy County Antrim (1851)
Patrick Mccann, Head, M, 54, Farmer, County Antrim,
Mary Mccann, Wife, M, 52, None, County Antrim,
Daniel Mccann, Son, M, 24, Linen Weaver, County Antrim,
Archibald Mccann, Son, U, 20, Linen Weaver, County Antrim,
John Mccann, Son, U, 16, Linen Weaver, County Antrim,
Patrick Mccann, Son, U, 12, At School, County Antrim,
Mary Mcateer, Servant, U, 27, House Servant, County Antrim,
Rose Mccann, Sister In Law, M, 20, None, County Antrim,

Dungonnell Townland, Dunaghy County Antrim (1851)
Charles Mccann, Head, M, 73, Farmer, County Antrim,
Catherine Mccann, Wife, M, 67, None, County Antrim,
Ellen Mchenry, GrandDaughter, U, 13, None, County Antrim,
Margaret Mchenry, GrandDaughter, U, 10, None, County Antrim,
Catherine Furfy, GrandDaughter, U, 3, None, County Antrim,
Ann Cassidy, Lodger, W, 80, MendicAntrim, County Antrim,
Mary Craig, Lodger, U, 38, MendicAntrim, County Antrim,
Mary Craig, Lodger, U, 7, MendicAntrim, County Antrim,

Maura

Maura Report 12 Jun 2012 20:20

This will, Patrick mention his niece Mary Walsh & his brother Bernard's son Patrick McCann

Title : Date of Death : 4 October 1882
Surname : McCann Date of Grant : 5 January 1883
Forename : Patrick Reseal Date :
Registry : Belfast Effects : Effects £125
Image

Full Abstract :
The Will of Patrick M'Cann late of Dungonnell County Antrim Farmer deceased who died 4 October 1882 at same place was proved at Belfast by Daniel M'Cann and John M'Cann both of Dungonnell Farmers the Executors.

http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/willsSearchResultsDetails.aspx

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Jun 2012 20:25

Maura....The details relating to Eliz.(wife of Patrick) dont fit as Patrick names his mother as Elizabeth in his will (Look at it on Proni....especially relating to his wife Eliz...!!

Hugh McCanns' will is also on there (1935) intersting only in so much as a Charles McAllister is Exec,

Title : Mr Date of Death : 20 February 1925
Surname : McCann Date of Grant : 11 May 1925
Forename : Hugh Reseal Date :
Registry : Belfast Effects : Effects £70 10s 0d
No Image

Full Abstract :
McCann Hugh of Cargan Glenravel county Antrim farmer died 20 February 1925 Probate Belfast 11 May to Charles McAllister merchant and Patrick McMullan farmer. Effects £70 10s.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Jun 2012 20:32

Maura....Am all mixed up...!!

Maura

Maura Report 12 Jun 2012 20:35

LOL unfortunely that will happen when your looking for McCann's around that area. I'll delete the headstone inscription, that might confuse everybody.

mgnv

mgnv Report 13 Jun 2012 02:43

The GRO(I) index thru 1958 (excl N. Ireland post-partition) is available at:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
[Potty's already posted the results of a look up here]


One can purchase certs (or cheaper still, the uncertified images of the rego) via:
http://www.groireland.ie/
[This would show the fathers of the couple]

The Irish 1901/1911 censuses are free at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

Tricia

Tricia Report 13 Jun 2012 22:09

Wow, thank you all for so much help on my query. I have a little info on the Mc Canns in that I have the birth record of Bernard Mc Cann born in Loanhead , Midlothian, Scotland in 1897. His parents were John and Ann who were in my query. Bernard became a shale miner like his father. His three sons did not go down the pit. His daughter was my late Mother in law. You have all given me directions in which to go for info and Irish censuses. As I have had little to do with Irish records I was at a loss but now can go forward with confidence. Thank you all, Tricia.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 14 Jun 2012 07:16

Tricia ...Your more than welcome.
If you get John and Ann's Death Cert (Scotland) that should show their parents names...mother and father ...use Scotlands People, That will help you to go down the Maternal side...(with luck !!)