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William Sturgess and Mary Ann Miller/ Kettering

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Clive

Clive Report 8 Jun 2012 15:50

Can anybody help me trace these people.
William was born in Kettering and married in around 1834 in Kettering to Mary Miller. They had children including George who was born 9/10/1843 also Robert and various girls. They moved to Northampton in around 1842 and George was born at Chapel Place, Kettering Road. In the 1851 census they have a strange surname but it is the correct family and William is down as a musician and shoemaker. There is no mention of George but there is a William born the same year. Are they calling him Will? Same in 1861. In 71 George is living independently. William is in th 81 census still living in Northampton. can anyone help with William or Mary as I can't seem to get back any further.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Jun 2012 16:07

Groom's Name: William Sturgess
Bride's Name: Mary Miller
Marriage Date: 07 Jul 1834
Marriage Place: Kettering, Northampton, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03237-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1999477
Reference Number:

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Jun 2012 16:14

For ref.

1841

Name: William Sturgess
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Kettering
Hundred: Huxloe
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Kettering
Sub-registration district: Kettering
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 803
Book: 17
Folio: 7
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
William Sturgess 25 Shoemaker
Mary Sturgess 26
Eliza Sturgess 6
Mary Sturgess 2
Robert Sturgess 4 Mo



Surname mis-transcribed in 1851

Name: William Hargiss
[William Sturgiss]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Hargiss
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Kelling, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Northampton St Sepulchre
Town: Northampton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Northampton
Sub-registration district: St Giles
ED, institution, or vessel: 8d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 186
Piece: 1739
Folio: 400
Page Number: 57
Household Members: Name Age
William Hargiss 36 Shoemaker
Mary Ann Hargiss 37
Eliza Hargiss 16
Mary Ann Hargiss 12
Robert Hargiss 10
Henry Hargiss 7
Thomas Hargiss 5
Fanny Hargiss 2

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 8 Jun 2012 16:14

when you say they have a strange surname in 1851 could you give us a clue

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 8 Jun 2012 16:15

Ah thanks rootgatherer.

Astra

Astra Report 8 Jun 2012 16:19

1861 Can't find any trace of a George

STURGES, William Head Married M 45 1816 Shoemaker And Musician
..., Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGES, Mary A Wife Married F 46 1815 Shoe Binder
..., Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGES, Henry Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Shoemaker
Northampton, Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGES, Thomas Son M 15 1846 Shoe Closer
Northampton, Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGES, Fanny Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar
Kettering, Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGES, Elizabeth Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar
Northampton, Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGES, Sarah A Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar
Northampton, Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGES, William Nephew Married M 32 1829 Shoemaker
Kettering, Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGES, Sarah Niece F 9 1852 Scholar
Irthlingborough, Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGES, Frederick Nephew M 7 1854 Scholar
Northampton, Northamptonshire VIEW


Piece: 935 Folio: 44 Page: 16 Registration District: Northampton Civil Parish: St Sepulchre Municipal Borough: Northampton Address: 37, Leicester Street, St Sepulchre, Northampton County: Northamptonshire


This is his birth

Births Dec 1843 (>99%)
STURGESS George Northampton 15 296

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Jun 2012 16:22

According to FreeBMD there's both a George and a William born Dec. quarter 1843 in Northampton. 2 different families?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Jun 2012 16:23

There is another William Sturgess born 1813 with a wife Mary. Can you tell us which of the children you are trace from please? Just to make sure that we have the correct William and Mary.

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 8 Jun 2012 16:29

this is the 1851 from FMP there is no mention of a George or a William as sons

Address: Ash Street, Saint Sepulchre, Northampton
County: Northamptonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
STURGISS, William Head Married M 36 1815 Shoemaker
Kettering, Northamptonshire
STURGISS, Mary Ann Wife Married F 37 1814 Wife
Kettering, Northamptonshire
STURGISS, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 Closer
Kettering, Northamptonshire
STURGISS, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 12 1839 Closer
Kettering, Northamptonshire
STURGISS, Robert Son Unmarried M 10 1841 Closer
Kettering, Northamptonshire
STURGISS, Henry Son Unmarried M 7 1844 Scholar
Northamptonshire
STURGISS, Thomas Son Unmarried M 5 1846 Scholar
Northamptonshire
STURGISS, Fanny Daughter Unmarried F 2 1849
Kettering, Northamptonshire

Astra

Astra Report 8 Jun 2012 16:32

Is this the George you are following?

STURGESS, George Head Widower M 38 1843 Shoe Manufacturer
Northampton, Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGESS, Harriett Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
Northampton, Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGESS, George Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Northampton, Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGESS, Harry Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Northampton, Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGESS, Ellen Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Northampton, Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGESS, Elizth Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar
Northampton, Northamptonshire VIEW
STURGESS, William Son Single M 0 1881
Northampton, Northamptonshire VIEW
ROBBINS, Eunice Housekeeper Married F 31 1850 Housekeeper
Kingsthorpe, Northamptonshire VIEW


Piece: 1549 Folio: 53 Page: 46 Registration District: Northampton Civil Parish: Northampton Priory of St Andrew Aka Town Part Municipal Borough: Address: 20, Grafton Place, Northampton Priory Of St Andrew Aka Town Part County: Northamptonshire

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 8 Jun 2012 16:33

Clive have you actually got the birth cert of George which gives his parent's names otherwise this is all speculation

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Jun 2012 16:36

Name: William Sturgess
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 19 May 1816
Baptism/Christening Place: WESLEYAN METHODIST,KETTERING,NORTHAMPTON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 21 Mar 1816
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robert Sturgess
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07456-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 0825340 (RG4 1273), 0825340 (RG4 901)
Reference Number:



Name: William Sturgess
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 08 Aug 1813
Baptism/Christening Place: Potterspury, Northampton, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Sturgess
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Anna
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02439-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1999936
Reference Number: item 2 p 4

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Jun 2012 16:44

Name: Mary Ann Miller
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 26 May 1822
Baptism/Christening Place: WESLEYAN METHODIST,HIGHAM FERRERS,NORTHAMPTON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 14 May 1817
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Miller
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Colson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07454-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 0825338 (RG4 1272)
Reference Number:

Clive

Clive Report 9 Jun 2012 20:12

Thanks to all who replied. I am tracing my family back from Frank Sturgess
(My Grandfather) who was the son of George Sturgess who was born Octocber 1843 in Northampton son of William and Mary Sturgess nee Miller. The most likely family seems to be the one found but there is no George but a Henry who would be the correct age. I wonder if he was called Henry at home instead of george.

jansmith

jansmith Report 9 Jun 2012 22:15

when /where
was Frank born?

Astra

Astra Report 10 Jun 2012 07:57

This is Frank who is the son of George born 1843

STURGES, George Head Married M 57 1844 Shoe Hand
Northampton VIEW
STURGES, Fanny Wife Married F 47 1854
Bethersden, Kent VIEW
STURGES, Olive Daughter F 9 1892
Hastings, Sussex VIEW
STURGES, Fanny Daughter F 7 1894
Hastings, Sussex VIEW
STURGES, James Son M 5 1896
Hastings, Sussex VIEW
>>>STURGES, Frank Son M 2 1899
Northampton VIEW

Piece: 1430 Folio: 14 Page: 20 Registration District: Northampton Civil Parish: Duston Municipal Borough: Address: New Buildings, Duston, Village County: Northamptonshire


In 1911 he is living with his older brother Harry and his wife

STURGESS, Harry Head Married M 35 1876 Clicker Boot And Shoe Northampton St Andrews VIEW
STURGESS, Rosa Wife Married14 years F 34 1877 Machinist Shoe Leicestershire Halesden VIEW
STURGESS, Frank Brother M 13 1898 Northampton St Michels VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 8551 Reference: RG14PN8551 RG78PN442 RD166 SD2 ED18 SN203 Registration District: Wellingborough Sub District: Higham Ferrers Enumeration District: 18 Parish: Rushden Address: 9 Montague St Rushden Northants County: Northamptonshire