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I am looking for information about william James fry born b c 1825 Salisbury.I know he married Ann Grant in Warminster in 1852 but I cannot find him on census or if he had any children.Would appreciate any help on this thanks.

1851:

Name: James William Fry
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Visitor
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Fordingbridge
Town: Fordingbridge
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Christchurch
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 137
Piece: 1667
Folio: 536
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
William Pope 70
Ann Pope 70
James William Fry 26

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Name: William Fry
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Durnford
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Amesbury
Sub-registration district: Amesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 7d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 1311
Folio: 88
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
John Harris 61
Eliza Harris 54
John Harris 19
Eliza Sweatman 17
William Fry 34
N.B. Some employers did not like their servants to be married so perhaps that may be why he is recorded as single.

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1881:
Name: William J. Fry
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth A. Fry
Gender: Male
Where born: Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Eglwysilan
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: Tonyfelyn Rd
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Maltsterer (Journeyman)
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Pontypridd
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5293
Folio: 29
Page Number: 58
Household Members:
Name Age
William J. Fry 56
Elizabeth A. Fry 50
Elizabeth A. Fry 9

Name: William James Fry
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1881
Age at Death: 57
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 213

Thanks for that Jonesey I have just received an e-mail from a friend who has informed me they had a son thomas b1874 in warminster but they dont know wether there were any other children,this family is driving me crazy lol !

A tree on ancestry has this for 1861:-

1861 England Censusabout William Fry
Name: William Fry
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Salisbury, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Durnford
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Amesbury
Sub-registration district: Amesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 7d
Neighbors: View others on page

Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 1311
Folio: 88
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
John Harris 61
Eliza Harris 54
John Harris 19
Eliza Sweatman 17
William Fry 34

They also have this as Christening for their only child:-


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Tom Grant

Name:Tom Grant
Gender:Male
Birth Date:abt 1852
Christening Date:2 May 1852
Christening Place: Chitterne, Wiltshire, England
Mother's name: Ann Grant

Thanks Catherine I have been stuck at this point for ages but they seem to elude me for some reason! Do you have any suggestions as to how I would find william james parents ?

The marriage certificate will give you his father's name and occupation which will be a start. It will also give you the names of witnesses who may be relatives.

Marriages Sep 1852 (>99%)
Fry William James Warminster 5a 209
Grant Ann Warminster 5a 209

Hi Catherine thankyou for that I wonder why he was a grant and not a fry and now it makes me think that william james possibly married twice.Thanks once again.

Ann in 1861?

1861 census transcription details for: Shrewton Lane, Chitterne St Mary


National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 1306
Folio: 50
Page: 27
Reg. District: Warminster
Sub District: 3 Heytesbury
Parish: Chitterne St Mary
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Shrewton Lane, Chitterne St Mary
County: Wiltshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GRANT, William Head Widower M 67 1794 Shepherd
Chitterne, Wiltshire
FRY, Ann Daughter Married F 31 1830
Chitterne, Wiltshire
FRY, Tom Grandson M 9 1852 Scholar
Chitterne, Wiltshire



1871 census transcription details for: 15 Bidden Lane, Chittern St Mary
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 1936
Folio: 35
Page: 3
Reg. District: Warminster
Sub District: Heytesbury
Parish: Chittern St Mary
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 15 Bidden Lane, Chittern St Mary
County: Wiltshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
FRY, Ann Head F 37 1834 Wiltshire Malster?? lab. wife
FRY, Tom Son M 19 1852 Wiltshire shepherd

If you look carefully, the baptism took place before the marriage so Ann was not married at the time.

Another tree on ancestry has parents as:-
Henry Fry (1801) and
Elizabeth Sturgess (1795-1851)

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Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837 about Elizabeth Sturgess

Name:Elizabeth Sturgess
Spouse:Henry Fry
Marriage Date:1821
Parish:Salisbury

possible baptism for William (James) ? from IGI records

Nov 27 1825 Salisbury St Edmund Wiltshire

Parents James and Anne

also marriage - James Fry to Ann Rogers Dec 23 1824 St Martin Salisbury

Thanks alviegal ,Barry for your help .Catherine I must be half asleep !!Until you pointed it out I hadnt noticed so thanks again and I think I must send for that marriage cert and get confirmation of the parents names.Thanks to you all,it is really appreciated.

Henry Andrews Apr-May-Jun 1882 Warminster Wiltshire
John Drewett Apr-May-Jun 1882 Warminster Wiltshire
Ann Fry Apr-May-Jun 1882 Warminster Wiltshire
Fanny Ruth Parsons Apr-May-Jun 1882 Warminster Wiltshire

Wondering if ann remarried

Thomas gets married.

1881 census transcription details for: Barrs Farm, Sutton-Veney
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 2057
Folio: 98
Page: 29
Reg. District: Warminster
Sub District: Longbridge-Deverill
Parish: Sutton-Veney
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Barrs Farm, Sutton-Veney
County: Wiltshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FRY, Thomas Head Married M 29 1852 Shepperd
Chittern, Wiltshire
FRY, Mary Jane Wife Married F 28 1853 Wife
Codford, Wiltshire
FRY, Kate Daughter Single F 7 1874 Schollar
Corton, Wiltshire
FRY, Thomas Son Single M 6 1875 Schollar
Sutton Veny, Wiltshire
FRY, Fredrick Son Single M 4 1877 Schollar
Sutton Veny, Wiltshire
FRY, Ellen Daughter Single F 2 1879 Schollar
Sutton Veny, Wiltshire
FRY, Albert Son Single M 0 1881
Sutton Parva, Wiltshire

1891 England Census about Ann Drewett
Name: Ann Drewett
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Drewett
Gender: Female
Where born: Chitterne St Mary, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Chitterne All Saints and St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Chitterne All Saints and St Mary
Town: Chitterne All Saints
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Warminster
Sub-registration district: Heytesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1611
Folio: 34
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
John Drewett 67
Ann Drewett 57

Hi Michelle maybe she did thanks for your help.Alviegal I do know that thomas married a mary jane wood but on the marriage cert he is now a fry not a grant. This is confusing ???

A big thankyou to each and everyone of you for your help and kindness,I now have more to go on ! Thanks once again.