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greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Jun 2012 18:43

Can someone help please?

Edmund Crask Lord married Charlotte Temperence Clarke 1873, Bingham, Notts. Their various children were blessed with middle names - Murr, Crask, Clarke and Goodacre. All I presume from maiden/surnames.

Charlotte's father was Clark/e and her mother was a Goodacre.

Edmund (b1840) Crask Lord's father John married Arabella Murr, but I don't know when or where - just before registration began I expect - the eldest known child born Jun Qtr 1838 in Nottingham. John was born in Nottingham c1817 and Arabella in Lincoln in 1810. Can you find this marriage please? Her parents I believe to be John Murr and Ann Bowling married 1798 Lincoln.

John Lord was probably baptised 1817 at Nottingham St Mary's, where his parents John Lord b c1788 Kelham, Notts and Mary Ann ?Chamberlain married 1808, Nottingham. But I can't find the Crask link. Can you?

Crask appears to be a predominantly, though not entirely, East Anglian surname where I did find a female Lord marrying a male Crask in 1783 Norfolk

My info has been obtained from census, freereg, family search and bmd's but I may well have missed something.

Thanks for looking

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Jun 2012 18:52

Just for our reference

Household: 1881

Edmund C. LORD Head M Male 41 Nottingham, England Tailor
Charlotte LORD Wife M Female 33 Cotgrave, Nottingham, England
John LORD Son Male 6 Cotgrave, Nottingham, England Scholar
Edmund C. LORD Son Male 4 Nottingham, England Scholar
Robert C. LORD Son Male 2 Nottingham, England
Archibald M. LORD Son Male 8 m Nottingham, England

Dwelling 15 Sabina St
Census Place Nottingham St Mary, Nottingham, England

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Jun 2012 18:53

Have you got this certificate to see if Arabella is Edmund's mother ?

Births Mar 1840 -
Lord Edmund Crask (Lord) - Nottingham 15 596

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Jun 2012 18:57


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ARABELLA MURR --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 27 FEB 1810 Lincoln, , England

Christening: St Benedict's, Lincoln, , England

Parents:
Father: JOHN MURR
Mother: ANN

greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Jun 2012 19:09

Thanks Mike. I haven't any certificates, but Edmund Crask becomes a Tailor, and John Lord married to Arabella is a Tailor. Also Edmunds siblings have the middle names of Crask and Murr.

greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Jun 2012 19:36

Thanks Allotment for that pointer, I've found that now on "the other site". Think I checked out all name combinations that I'm looking for except that one!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Jun 2012 19:39

Just in case you don't have it:

NOTTINGHAMSHIRE GUARDIAN - Saturday 11 November 1899
DEATHS

LORD - On 31st ult. at 83 Blue Bell Hill, after a short illness, Edmund Crask Lord, in his 60th year.


NOTTINGHAM EVENING POST - Tuesday 19 March 1929

LORD - On the 19th inst., Charlotte, widow of the late Edmund Crask Lord, in her 81st year.

greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Jun 2012 19:45

Thanks MC - had the bmd's but not the newspaper entries for actual dates.

Sharon

Sharon Report 6 Jun 2012 20:26

marriage
john lord and arabella murr 2 4 1837 nottingham st mary

Sharon

Sharon Report 6 Jun 2012 20:36

hi stuart
have you the births and baptisms of edmunds and charlottes children if not i will put them on here
dont know wheather this is of interest
annie lord to john and arabella 7 9 1879 burton joyce father a tailor abode nottingham and in the notes wife of chas jobbins

Sharon

Sharon Report 6 Jun 2012 21:00

thought id list them anyway all lord to edmund crask and charlotte t
edmund crask born 28 11 1876 baptised 25 3 1877
robert clarke 24 6 1878 6 10 1878
archibald muir 16 7 1880 11 6 1882
charles goodacre 26 11 1882 21 1 1883
horace sextus crask 22 8 1884 6 10 1884
arabella jane 4 6 1886 18 7 1886 all at nottingham st ann father a tailor living at 15 sabina st

child to john lord and arabella
arabella baptised 15 7 1877 basford st leodegarius father a tailor

greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Jun 2012 21:00

Sharon - Thanks, I'll take anything you have please. Can you explain the Annie Lord to John and Arabella above please, can't work out what it's saying (grey cells are withering!) Is it a late baptism?
Edit - I see in bmd's that Charles Jobbins married Annie Lord MURR!

greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Jun 2012 21:12

Crossed in the post! Thanks for those. Are you able to find a baptism for Edmund and Charlottes oldest please. John Lord born Cotgrave (Bingham RD) Dec Qtr 1874

Sharon

Sharon Report 6 Jun 2012 21:17

hi stuart
just looked on the disc and there does not appear to be any baptisms for cotgrave on it
but wendy on here does nottinghamshire look ups at the archives i will nudge her thread up if you would like me to

Sharon

Sharon Report 6 Jun 2012 21:20

theres this marriage on the disc dont know where it will be any good to you but not much on crask i can find
william killiner to ann crask 20 1 1791 newark st mary

greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Jun 2012 21:37

Thanks - Wendy is in my watched threads as most of my research is Notts. One last query if you don't mind.
1874 John married Gertrude Mills 1901. They had 2 children, would you be able to see a baptism for either
Edmund Crask Lord born 4.2.1902 and Archibald Robert Lord b 17.8.1905 both Nottingham

PS Have we swopped info in the past re the Boultby family

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Jun 2012 21:55

NOTTINGHAM EVENING POST - Saturday 10 February 1940
Marriages

LORD-MILES: On February 10th at St Giles Church, West Bridgford, Reginald Crask, son of Mr & Mrs Edmund Crask Lord of West Bridgford to Doris Stiles, daughter of Mr & Mrs Howard Miles of Bodicote, Banbury.

** The paper does report Doris as Stiles but her parents as Miles?


Don't believe what you read in the papers:

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1940
Lord Reginald C Miles Basford 7b 573

greyghost

greyghost Report 6 Jun 2012 22:30

Thank you MC - Reginald is son of Edmund Crask Lord born 1877, brother of the 1874 John. He married a bit later in life in 1914.
ECL born 1902 married Charlotte Bicker and that's a whole new "other story"

Quoy

Quoy Report 7 Jun 2012 07:10

posting in case you do not have it

Horace Sextus Crask Lord of the Hand Inn Wollaton Street Nottingham died 31st October 1928 administration (with will) to Mary Lord widow
£670 2sh 3d

Archibald Murr Lord 2 Grover Avenue West-dale Lane West Mapperley died 11th June 1949 probate to Annie Lord widow
£1708 6sh 4d

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Jun 2012 09:59

Thanks Quoy