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Ozibird - my uncle says she wasn't married, if she left any kind of an estate wouldn't this go to her husband or children if there were any. My gran received some monies but we understand there hadnt been a will so this was obviously through probate, but its worth having a look at your suggestion.

Christina S - yes my great gran had a sister Jane, with parents in 1881, in 1901 she appears to be in service in lancashire, I think she then gets married before the 1911 census and has a daughter age 5

Andysmum - I get the impression from you uncle that they found her around Tewkesbury area

Will visit my uncle again try and see if he can remember anything else, although he is 95 his memory is absolutely terrific and he doesnt get confused, but he may be able to remember something else useful, I just wish I could solve this one

Thanks to everyone for their efforts

Because the family came from Tewkesbury everyone is assuming that it was the Warwickshire River Avon, but it is possible that it was the Bristol Avon, which is not that far away.

If your uncle is correct and she "threw herself" into the river, then this could have been from the Clifton Suspension Bridge in Bristol. This is a very popular!!?? suicide spot, being over a deep gorge, making survival unlikely.

If this guess is right, then there will probably be a report in the local paper, as there would have been an inquest.

According to a google entry, some bridges are known for their high rate of suicides and people will travel considerable distances to get to one of these, rather than choose one nearer home.

Does the name Ballard fit into your family anywhere?

Marriages Sep 1897
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BALLARD Elizabeth Jane Gloucester 6a 545 ****
Brown Fanny Eliza Gloucester 6a 545
Jones Charles James Gloucester 6a 545 ****
Newman Thomas Gloucester 6a 545

This could be a 'possible' marriage for the Elizabeth Jane who died?

Dea x

Your great grandmother, Agnes Austin, had a sister Jane, born in 1880. She is with her parents on the 1881 census.

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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,25326.0.html
"The city coroner Mr G Trevor Wellington held an inquest at the Royal infirmary on Friday on Elizabeth Jane Jones Age 56. The wife of Charles James Jones."

Found drowned in Severn River. Newspaper article is Oct 21, 1922.


Ozi

Thanks for that link Madmeg, my uncle said she was never married!
I just want to solve the mystery but without her real name it's a nightmare

Bit shakey on geography, but pretty sure the Avon doesn´t run through Shropshire. Think thats the Severn.
Marion

Jinny could have been short for all sorts of names, and even middle names, and could have been Ginnie, short for Georgina. If she committed suicide this is likely recorded by local history groups. Here is the link for Tewkesbury History Society, who might be able to help you

http://www.ths.freeuk.com/

Did she die unmarried?

Thanks for all the help
I think I need to try and contact solicitors in Birmingham as apparently my gran had a letter from someone hopefully they may keep records as far back as the 1920s

I found her Ann but lost her after the 1901 census, couldnt find her on 1911 census?

Jane Austin
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1880 Oakengates,? Salop
census: 31 Mar 1901 Withington,? Lancashire,? England


name: Jane Austin
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 21
relationship to head of household: Servant
birthplace: Oakengates, Salop
record type: Household
registration district: Chorlton
sub-district: Didsbury
ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls Withington
civil parish: Withington
county: Lancashire

Thanks Ann, I appreciate the "diggin", I am inclined to think she was more likely to be on the Austin side rather than the Brooks side

Gwyn you have me stumped to I don't know the geography, I would assume between Wellington in Shropshire and Tewkesbury if it runs that route, my uncle said the Avon it could even have been the severn if he hasnt got his facts right, thats the problem, its just a mystery

From Wiki
An idea of towns, for those, like me, not familiar with the area.........

The source of the Avon is near the village of Naseby in Northamptonshire. For the first few miles of its length between Welford and the Dow Bridge on Watling Street, it forms the border between Northamptonshire and Leicestershire. On this section, it has been dammed to create Stanford Reservoir. It then flows in a generally west-southwesterly direction, not far north of the Cotswold Edge and through the Vale of Evesham, passing through the towns and villages of Welford, Rugby, Wolston, (bordering Leamington Spa), Warwick, Stratford-upon-Avon, Welford-on-Avon, Bidford-on-Avon, Evesham and Pershore, before it joins the River Severn at Tewkesbury.

just digging around to see if I can find something on the elusive Jinny!!!!

Fanny Brookes
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1883 Tewkesbury,? Gloucestershire
census: 31 Mar 1901 Canton,? Glamorganshire,? Wales


name: Fanny Brookes
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 18
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire
record type: Household
registration district: Cardiff
sub-district: West Cardiff
ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
civil parish: Canton
county: Glamorganshire

Ann, yes this information is definately the correct family I have all this
Gwyn It could be Shropshire or Gloucester, my grandmother was born in
Tewkesbury, her mother Agnes Austin was born in Oakengates in Shropshire, Agnes had a sister Selina, who also later lived in Tewkesbury after she married

just putting this on in case it's useful to you



name: Charles /Brooks/
gender: Male
birth: ABT. 1835


Marriages (1)
spouse: Charlotte /Yearsley/
marriage: 1855
Monmouth, Gloucestershire
Hide children (6)

child 1: James /Brooks/
gender: Male
birth: 1857
Monmouth, Gloucestershire

child 2: John /Brooks/
gender: Male
birth: 1864
Monmouth, England

child 3: Sarah /Brooks/
gender: Female
birth: 1862
Monmouth, England

child 4: Charles /Brooks/
gender: Male
birth: ABT. 1855
Monmouth, Gloucestershire

child 5: William /Brooks/
gender: Male
birth: 1868
Monmouth, England

child 6: Emily /Brooks/
gender: Female
birth: 1860
Monmouth, Gloucestershire
death: 14 FEB 1945
Cardiff

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name: James /Brooks/
gender: Male
birth: 1857
Monmouth, Gloucestershire
christening: 17 OCT 1857
Monmouth, England


Parents
father: Charles /Brooks/
mother: Charlotte /Yearsley/

Marriages (1)
spouse: /Agnes/
Hide children (4)

child 1: Gladys /Brooks/
gender: Female
birth: ABT. 1880
Tewkesbury

child 2: Sarah /Brooks/
gender: Female
birth: ABT. 1881
Tewkesbury, Gloucester

child 3: Fanny /Brooks/
gender: Female
birth: 10 SEP 1882
Tewksbury, Gloucestershire
death: 21 DEC 1979


child 4: Agnes /Brooks/
gender: Female
birth: ABT. 1885
Tewkesbury

Any idea of area, ie. which part of the river?
This might help to narrow the search.

Gwyn

Thank you both I will try some Jane's, I have found some, but came to a dead end when they married, as my uncle said she had never married, I'll keep plodding on - I think she was probably still around Shropshire as he said my gran had a letter from a solicitor in Birmingham