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1851 census for Sarah Sherwin

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Teresa

Teresa Report 13 May 2012 14:13

Could some-one please look up for Sarah Sherwin born c1829 at Ripley in Derby, I cant find a birth for her but have found her in 1881 on IGI with her husband Thomas Poxon and have taken her approx birth and place of birth from that.
Thabk-you Teresa

Vera

Vera Report 13 May 2012 14:16

1851
Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
BEARDMORE, Michael Head Widower M 64 1787 Farmer
Kingsley
Staffordshire VIEW
BEARDMORE, Thomas Son Unmarried M 27 1824 Farmer's Son
Welton
Staffordshire VIEW
BEARDMORE, Ralph Son Unmarried M 23 1828 Farmer's Son
Welton
Staffordshire VIEW
BEARDMORE, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834 Farmer's Daughter
Hollington
Derbyshire VIEW
BEARDMORE, Mary Hanh Daughter F 11 1840 Scholar
Hollington
Derbyshire VIEW
BEARDMORE, William Son M 9 1842 Scholar
Hollington
Derbyshire VIEW
BEARDMORE, Catharine Helen Daughter F 7 1844
Hollington
Derbyshire VIEW
SHERWIN, Sarah Servant Unmarried F 22 1829 House Servant
Rodsley
Derbyshire VIEW
Piece: 2146
Folio: 412
Page: 16
Registration District: 16
Civil Parish: Fenny Bentley
Municipal Borough:
Address: Ravenscliff Farm, Fenny Bentley
County: Derbyshire

1861
Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
BEARDMOOR, Thomas Head Unmarried M 36 1825 Farmer
Whitton
Staffordshire VIEW
BEARDMOOR, Mary H Sister Unmarried F 21 1840 Assistant
Ullington
Derbyshire VIEW
BEARDMOOR, William Nephew M 6 1855 Scholar
Hassop
Derbyshire VIEW
SHEWAN, Sarah Servant Unmarried F 32 1829 Dairy Maid
Rodsley
Derbyshire VIEW
SHEWAN, Austin Servant Unmarried M 22 1839 Farm Servant
Rodsley
Derbyshire VIEW
SHEWAN, Seth Servant Unmarried M 30 1831 Farm Servant
Rodsley
Derbyshire VIEW
HOSKIN, John Labourer Married M 54 1807 Agricultural Labourer
Eyam
Derbyshire VIEW
Piece: 2538
Folio: 128
Page: 3
Registration District: 3
Civil Parish: Hassop
Municipal Borough:
Address: ...Barn, Hassop, Hassop
County: Derbyshire


Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 13 May 2012 14:18

1841
Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
GILLMAN, Thomas M 60 1781 Derbyshire VIEW
GILLMAN, Sarah F 55 1786 VIEW
GILLMAN, Ann F 30 1811 Derbyshire VIEW
GILLMAN, Thomas M 25 1816 Derbyshire VIEW
GILLMAN, John M 25 1816 Derbyshire VIEW
GILLMAN, William M 25 1816 Derbyshire VIEW
GILLMAN, George M 15 1826 Derbyshire VIEW
GILLMAN, Robert M 15 1826 Derbyshire VIEW
SHERWIN, Sarah F 12 1829 Derbyshire VIEW
Piece: 181
Book/Folio: 11/4
Page: 16
Registration District: 16
Civil Parish: Longford
Municipal Borough:
Address: Rodsley, Longford, Rodsley
County: Derbyshire



Regards Vera

Teresa

Teresa Report 13 May 2012 14:20

Thanks Vera, I was hoping that Sarah would still be at home with parents,
Could you possibly have a look in 1841 please x :-)

Teresa

Teresa Report 13 May 2012 14:20

sorry you already did it thanks very much

Vera

Vera Report 13 May 2012 14:23

Unfortunately as you see she is not with her parents.....very frustrating :-)

Regards vera

Vera

Vera Report 13 May 2012 14:25

?????
SARAH AMY SHERWIN Pedigree
Female


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 26 OCT 1828 Longford, Derby, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN SHERWIN Family
Mother: ANN




Probably best to get her marriage certificate for fathers name and occupation.

Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
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Poxon Thomas Ashby de la Zouch 7a 214
Sherwin Sarah Ashby de la Zouch 7a 214




Regards Vera

Teresa

Teresa Report 13 May 2012 14:26

Yes I agree, it's not what I hoped for but we can't always get them all.
Regards Teresa :-)

Vera

Vera Report 13 May 2012 14:27

We crossed messages...

Regards Vera

Choccy

Choccy Report 13 May 2012 14:28


1841

Seth and Austin Sherwin (on 1861 census with Sarah)


1841 census transcription details for:

RG number: HO107
Piece: 181
Book/Folio: 11/2
Page: 13
Reg. District: Ashbourne
Sub District: Brailsford
Parish: Longford
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Rodsley, Longford, Rodsley
County: Derbyshire

SHERWIN, John M 45 1796 Derbyshire
SHERWIN, Ann F 35 1806 Derbyshire
>>>>SHERWIN, Seth M 6 1835 Derbyshire
SHERWIN, Edwin M 5 1836 Derbyshire
SHERWIN, Charlotte F 3 1838 Derbyshire
>>>>SHERWIN, Austin M 2 1839 Derbyshire

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 13 May 2012 14:36

Are you sure the 1857 marriage is theirs?

They are already together on the 1851 census.....

1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Porcton
[Sarah Poxton]
[Sarah Poxon]
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Porcton
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Ripley, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Greasley
Ecclesiastical parish: Kimberley
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Greasley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 196
Piece: 2125
Folio: 218
Page Number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Porcton 27
Sarah Porcton 21
Mary Porcton 2
Thomas Porcton 5 Mo

Do you have a birth cert of one of children showing Sarah's maiden name as Sherwin?



Teresa

Teresa Report 13 May 2012 14:44

Choccy and Christina.
Sorry for delay again, this site keeps stopping me from answering, and have to sign in again and again!!! don't know what that's all about.
noticed Seth and Austin in 1861, did wonder about them and going to see if anything on IGI. As for marriage in 1857, everything else matched so I thought that it was the right one, not sure now!! Dont have birth certificates at all. Teresa

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 13 May 2012 14:53

I think you need one of the children's birth certs to verify Sarah's maiden name.


Possible marriage from Familysearch......


Thomas Poxon
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 01 Nov 1847 Saint Matthew,?Walsall,?Stafford,?England
spouse: Sarah James


groom's name: Thomas Poxon
bride's name: Sarah James
marriage date: 01 Nov 1847
marriage place: Saint Matthew,Walsall,Stafford,England
indexing project (batch) number: M01030-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0973340 IT 2, 421612, 497336, 497337, 497338, 497339


And the marriage registration....

Marriages Dec 1847 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bullivant James Walsall 17 333
COOK Caroline Walsall 17 333
>>>>>JAMES Sarah Walsall 17 333
Leek Joseph Walsall 17 333
NEWMAN Henry Walsall 17 333
>>>>>POXON Thomas Walsall 17 333
SHARROD Sarah Walsall 17 333
Woodhouse Ann Walsall 17 333


Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 13 May 2012 15:06

Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Harper Martha Ashby de la Zouch 7a 214
Poxon Thomas Ashby de la Zouch 7a 214
Sherwin Sarah Ashby de la Zouch 7a 214
Smith George Ashby de la Zouch 7a 214


This is the Thomas Poxon who married in Ashby De La Zouch in 1857. He married Martha Harper........


1871 England Census
Name: Thos Poxon
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha Poxon
Gender: Male
Where born: Packington, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Packington
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Whitwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 3250
Folio: 5
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Poxon 33
Martha Poxon 33
Jane Poxon 12
Lavinia Poxon 7
Henry Poxon 2


So Sarah Sherwin must have married George Smith.

Teresa

Teresa Report 13 May 2012 15:11

Hi Christina.
I will have to go back through all Poxon details and see where I seemed to go horribly wrong, must have been having a senior moment!! or something. Thanks for the help. Teresa

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 13 May 2012 15:23

Ignore the above info on Sarah James. Found Julia's baptism giving her mother's maiden name as Greensmith.........



parents: Thomas Poxon,? Sarah Greensmith


name: Julia Poxon
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 01 Jan 1866
baptism/christening place: PRIMITIVE METHODIST,ILKESTON CIRCUIT,DERBY,ENGLAND
birth date: 14 Apr 1865
father's name: Thomas Poxon
mother's name: Sarah Greensmith
indexing project (batch) number: C13741-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1041617


1871 England Census
about Sarah Poxon Name: Sarah Poxon
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Poxon
Gender: Female
Where born: Ripley, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Greasley
Ecclesiastical parish: Kimberley
Town: Kimberley
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Greasley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 3477
Folio: 116
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Poxon 48
Sarah Poxon 44
Thomas Poxon 21
Mark Poxon 19
Therma Poxon 16
Anne A Poxon 14
Marrie Poxon 11
John Poxon 8
>>>Julia Poxon 5
Heaty Poxon 1


Marriages Mar 1846 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dexter Mary Basford 15 631
>>>>>Greensmith Sarah Basford 15 631
Greensmith Thomas Basford 15 631
>>>>>Poxton Thomas Basford 15 631
Robinson Charlotte Basford 15 631
Robinson William Basford 15 631




Teresa

Teresa Report 13 May 2012 15:35

This one look more like it, have looked back through, and in 1881 Thomas and Sarh have 2 children with them John 18 and Hetty11. I will alter my paperwork and try again. Thanks very much x

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 13 May 2012 15:44

Sarah's baptism from Familysearch......

name: Sarah Greensmith
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 12 Oct 1828
baptism/christening place: Ripley, Derbyshire, England
father's name: Jacob Greensmith
mother's name: Elizabeth Greensmith
indexing project (batch) number: C01053-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1752221

Teresa

Teresa Report 13 May 2012 15:52

Thanks Christina,
have just found that one, then put a search in for other children and they come up as father being "James", Jemima, Sarah and Eliza. I will leave that one at the moment and concentrate on another couple of queries that i have. Teresa :-)

Marktewk

Marktewk Report 5 Jun 2012 15:02

Here's what I have...

1. Thomas POXON was born on 31 Aug 1823 in Greasley, Nottinghamshire. He died Q1 1891 in Basford (registration).

Coal Miner at the time of the 1851 census (transcribed as Porcton)

Coal Miner at the time of the 1861 census

Coal Miner at the time of the 1881 census.


Thomas married Sarah GREENSMITH on 30 Mar 1846 in Basford (registration). Sarah was born in 1821/1829 in Ripley, Derbyshire.

Widow living with her daughter Tryphena at the time of the 1901 census.


Thomas and Sarah had the following children:

2 F i. Mary POXON was born Q1 1849 in Snibston, Leicestershire.
Mary married (1) Hugh GREEN in 1868 in Basford (registration). Hugh was born in 1849 in Greasley, Nottinghamshire. He died in 1875 in Basford, Nottinghamshire.
Mary married (2) Joseph WALKER in 1884 in Basford (registration). Joseph was born in 1857 in Worthington, Leicestershire.

3 M ii. Thomas POXON was born on 7 Oct 1850 in Kimberley, Nottinghamshire. He died Q2 1930 in Mansfield (registration).
Thomas married Angelina LIMB on 2 Jul 1871 in Kimberley, Nottinghamshire. Angelina was born on 5 Dec 1849 in Kimberley, Nottinghamshire. She died Q2 1932 in Mansfield (registration).

4 M iii. Mark POXON was born Q3 1852 in Kimberley, Nottinghamshire. He died Q3 1901 in Mansfield (registration).

Coal Miner at the time of the 1881 census

Coal Miner, lodging with Mary Sansom (widow, living on own means)
aged 61 of Tapton, Derbyshire (near Scarsdale near Chesterfield,
Derbyshire), at 70 Leeming Street (next to the Stag & Pheasant pub) at
the time of the 1891 census. Living with him is "Florry" Poxon aged 8
born "M.... Bank", Nottinghamshire


Mark married (1) Hannah GREGORY daughter of John GREGORY and Ann COCKER on 8 Sep 1873 in Basford (registration). Hannah was born in 1845/1846 in Calver, Derbyshire. She died Q2 1886 in Mansfield (registration).
Mark married (2) Ellen BIRCH in 1896 in Worksop (registration). Ellen was born in 1848/1849 in Chesterfield, Derbyshire. She died Q2 1903 in Mansfield (registration).

5 F iv. Florence POXON was born in 1854/1855 in Greasley, Nottinghamshire.

6 F v. Tryphena POXON was born Q3 1855 in Greasley, Nottinghamshire. She died Q2 1925 in Basford (registration).

GRO ref Tryphena Paxton, Basford, Sep 1855, 7b 83


Tryphena married James BENTLEY on 17 Mar 1873 in Annesley, Nottinghamshire. James was born in 1850/1851 in Lower Gornal, Staffordshire.

Coal Miner at the time of the 1891 census


7 F vi. Ann Elizabeth POXON was born Q4 1857 in Greasley, Nottinghamshire.
Ann married James WHITEHEAD on 10 Nov 1873 in Annesley Parish Church, Nottinghamshire.

8 F vii. Maria Isabella POXON was born Q1 1861 in Hasland, Derbyshire. She died Q1 1951 in Ilkeston (registration).
Maria married Edmund Severn KIRK son of George Thomas KIRK and Maria SEVERN in 1881 in Nottingham, Nottinghamshire. Edmund was born Q3 1858 in Nottingham, Nottinghamshire. He died Q1 1918 in Nottingham, Nottinghamshire.

Lacemaker at the time of the 1881 census.

Lacemaker at the time of the 1891 census, living with his wife Maria
and three children at 53 Orlyon Street, Nottingham

Levers Lacemaker at the time of the 1901 census.


9 M viii. John POXON was born Q2 1863 in Grassmoor, near Chesterfield, Derbyshire. He died after 22 Jun 1907.

Coal Miner at the time of the 1881 census.

Coal Miner at the time of the 1891 census.

Colliery Manager at the time of the 1901 census.


John married Bertha BENNETT daughter of Joseph BENNETT and Ann HICKLING in Jan 1883 in Basford (registration). Bertha was born Q4 1863 in Belton, Leicestershire. She died Q3 1946 in Nottingham (registration).

Seamstress at the time of the 1881 census.


10 F ix. Julia POXON was born on 14 Apr 1865 in Greasley, Nottinghamshire. She was christened on 1 Jan 1866 in Primitive Methodist, Ilkeston Circuit, Derby, England.

11 F x. Prudence POXON was christened on 11 Aug 1867 in Primitive Methodist, Ilkeston Circuit, Derby, England.

12 F xi. Hetty POXON was born Q4 1869 in Eastwood, Nottinghamshire. She died Q4 1929 in Newark (registration).
Hetty married Harry TYERS on 22 Jul 1890 in Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire. Harry was born about 1869 in Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire. He died in 1944 in Newark (registration).

I hope these details are accurate and are of some interest and assistance. Please let me know of any errors.

Regards
Mark Poxon