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I am trying to find out birth details and possibly miitary (if any) for Samuel Lomas who married Frances (unknown). Samuel lived in Kilrush Ireland for a while and died on 23/10/1858 whilst working for the Vandeleur family. I would like to know if he was ever on a ship as I have a carved horn and would like to gather more information on him.

Many thanks


Maria

How did you arrive at his name - is he an ancestor?
Did he spend all his time based in Ireland?
Thanks

is this him1851
LOMAS, Samuel Married M 31 1820 Private Army
Longnores
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Piece:
1628 Folio:
289 Page:
23 Registration District:
Sheppey

Civil Parish:
Minster Municipal Borough:
Address:
Minster County:
Kent

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Name: LOMAS, Samuel

Registration district: [?] Tenterden

County: Kent

Year of registration: 1858

Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun

Volume no: 2A

Page no: 331

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British Army Service Records 1760-1915
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First name(s): Samuel
Last name: LOMAS
Calculated year of birth: 1819
Parish of birth: Longnor
Town of birth: Leek
County of birth: Staffordshire
Age at attestation: 21 years
Attestation date: 22 August 1840
Attestation corps: Report transcription error
Attestation soldier number:
Discharge rank: Private
Discharge corps: 15th Foot
Discharge soldier number: 1781
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 1438 / 53

Samuel Lomas is an ancestor - he had a son - Lewis with whom Francis (Samuel Lomas' wife?) was living after the death of her husband.

She couild possibly be the sister of a Goslin but not sure.

I presume Catherine is his second wife, married in 1837?


1851 England Census
about Samuel Lomas
Name: Samuel Lomas
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine Lomas
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bramall, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Bramhall
Ecclesiastical parish: Stockport St Thomas
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England


Registration district: Stockport
Sub-registration district: Stockport Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 178
Piece: 2157
Folio: 645
Page Number: 46
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Lomas 54 <<Farm labourer
Catherine Lomas 53
Elizabeth Lomas 25
Moses Lomas 12
Ann Lomas 1
William Alcock 17

Looks like he may have gone to Ireland to work, had his son Lewis whilst in Ireland and decided to settle there for a while.

Is this your Samuel?


Ireland, Griffith’s Valuation, 1848-1864
about Samuel Lomas
Occupier: Samuel Lomas
Lessor: Colonel C M Vandeleur
County: Clare
Barony: Moyarta
Parish: Kilrush
Townland: Cappagh
OS Page Numbers: 67

Gisn

Yes that's the one.

So, for ref:
1871 England Census
Lewis Lomas Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Anne Lomas
Mother's Name: Frances Lomas
Gender: Male Where born: Kibrush, Ireland [Kilrush, Ireland]
Civil parish: Tottenham County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 75 Piece: 1338 Folio: 40 Page Number: 19
Lewis Lomas 39
Anne Lomas 34
Lewis Lomas 7
William Lomas 2
Frances Lomas 85 Nayland, Suffolk,
Jane Adams 23
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1338; Folio: 40; Page: 19; GSU roll: 828280.

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Frances Lomas
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1790
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1881
Age at Death: 91
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 160

1861 England Census (image would not load)
: Lewis Lomas Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Lomas
Gender: Male Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Hackney St John
Ecclesiastical parish: West Hackney
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 101
Piece: 155 Folio: 152 Page Number: 19
Lewis Lomas 30
Annie Lomas 24 Marylebone
Powis L Lomas 6 Months
Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 155; Folio: 152; Page: 19; GSU roll: 542583.

Patchem

That's about as far as I managed to get - it's so difficult to find Irish relatives(?) - I don't know what bought Frances back to England to live after her husband's death. Did she live here before or may be Samuel is not Irish afterall.

So do you know anything about the 'Powis' connection?


Name: Louis Lomas
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Cousin <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoxton St John
Town: Hoxton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton Old Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 1536
Folio: 136
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Powis 44
Mary Powis 48
Harriet Powis 68
Louis Lomas 19
James Price 37
Mary A Palmer 16

What is Samuel's age at death, as Frances was born around 1790, and so a relatively old mother for Lewis?
Thanks

So the youngest child in 1861 is actually Powis - I could not look it up to confirm, will try again.

Added:
Births Dec 1860
LOMAS Powis Louis Islington 1b 250

Harriet Powis in 1851 census is also born in Nayland Suffolk - same as Frances.

Ithink that Arthur may have been the youngest child - Arthur Dunford - not sre how this relates to Francis and Samuel. I do not have an age for Samueld except the date of death which is 23 October 1958 possibly grave plot 113.

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Williamg Powis
[William Powis]
[Harriet Goslin]
Spouse Name: Harriott Gesling
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Dec 1807
Parish: Bloomsbury St George
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Register

So this is the Goslin connection?

Harriet Goslin
Christening: 06 OCT 1782 Nayland, Suffolk, England
Father: Rivers Goslin Mother: Sarah Goslin
Type: C043714

Frances Goslin
Christening: 17 MAY 1785 Nayland, Suffolk, England
Father: Risers Goslin Mother: Sarah
type: C024927

Not sure this helps any!


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Powis Louis Lomas
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1860
Baptism Date: 24 Oct 1860
Father's Name: Lewis Lomas
Mother's Name: Annie Lomas
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney St Peter
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Powis Louis Lomas >>Ins clerk
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Spouse Name: Mary Jane Hughes
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Oct 1888
Parish: Tottenham Holy Trinity
Borough: Haringey
Father Name: Lewis Lomas Wine merchant
Brides Father: Joseph Hughes Gentleman

Witnesses: Joseph Hughes & Henry John Lomas

Might be worth sending for the will, there may be some clues?


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941
about Powis Louis Lomas
Name: Powis Louis Lomas
Probate Date: 24 Feb 1917
Death Date: 24 Dec 1916
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London

£1378 18s 3d to Widow, Mary Jane Lomas


Do you have Samuel & Frances on a census (together)

No sorry I don't - nothing except a newspaper article stating that Frances' husband was Samuel Lomas.