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Looking after a nurse child = a paid foster parent..

On freebmd there is this marriage:

Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%)
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Hodgson Joseph Kensington 1a 122
McLachlan Sophia Caroline Kensington 1a 122
>>>>>>>>>>>>Pullon William Kensington 1a 122
YOUNGS Emilie Catherine Kensington 1a 122
>>>>>>>>>>Youngs Emily Kensington 1a 122


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I managed to download the records page and I too noticed the bit on the bottom and wondered whether or not another child had been born. I have not as yet searched for a death because I have been trying to advance further back with this family which is causing me so much grief. It's proving an absolute nightmare and I have not advanced backwards from the 1881 although I have tried a variety of spellings for Pullen. However, curiosity got the better of me when I saw on 1881 'wife's mother' - no name but also saw Louisa Young aged 30 described as sister. I wondered if this was Emily's sister or a married sister of William but started hunting. I have found a Louisa Young b. 1851 (correct year) with a sister Emily b 1856 (correct year) with parents William Young and Louisa his wife. I have made a note just in case these prove to be Emily Pullen's parents.

Thank you Adeline - I didn't have time before I went out :-)

There wasn't much really of any help to us in the rest of the records.

He was a Driver in the Army and his trade was down as Motor (Lorry?) Driver and I was very amused to see that on 17th September, 1915 he was ordered to 'forfeit 3 days pay for exceeding the speed limit 8 miles per hour, contrary to orders' - .......... 8 MILES PER HOUR !! -They certainly didn't move very quickly in those days did they ?? :-D

Dea x

P.S. - What did you make of the feint writing below the children's birth details? - It looks like Alfred James - ? called 22/8/95 ?? - Another child who died perhaps ??

Dea x

That's a great find, Dea!

I have sent Margaret the page of the service record showing the marriage and childrren.

Thank you so much Dea - seems they told 'porkies' on 1901 and 1911 census !! After so many children, I wonder hat prompted them to eventually marry ???

Also, on 1881 census where the Pullen family is down as Pullon with an o, there are two kiddies aged 3 and ? months described as nurse child ??? Would this be that they are being 'wet-nursed' by Mrs. Emily Pullen. I wouldn't have thought so as she has a 3 yr old and a 1 yr old herself !! If not, what is meant by a nurse child. Or could it be something as simple as being 'looked after' by the family in a similar way as we have child-minders today ?

I too have got to shoot off to work in a short while, but will log on later today. Thank you all, you have set me on my way after my mammoth struggle. Much appreciated.

You are in luck - Ancestry has his Service Records which confirm that the 1911 family is correct and that he married Emily Edith on 17th February, 1913.

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about George James Brown Name: George James Brown
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Age at enlistment: 38
Residence: 14 Rendle Street, Westbourne Park W
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 047513
Regiment Name: Army Service Corps
Number of images: 13


I have to go out in a minute but will have a look through when I get back for anything useful.

Dea x

If the 1913 marriage is the correct one, it wouldn't be the first time a marriage has taken place after many of the children have been born. I have two in my own tree!

Thank you everyone - I had been away from the computer answering the phone and had not seen all your replies. Thank you so much for really going the extra mile to try and help. I am going to write it all down now and really study it.

You could hopefully get George's father's name and occupation from his marriage certificate.
That would narrow the search

Thank you all for your replies.
1. I was given the surname of Emma by her grand-daughter. It is this grand-daughters son I am trying to help with this.

2. Adeline - thank you for that information. It looks a very good prospect to me even though on the 1901 census this couple have two children and by 1911 they actually had 7 !!

I was wondering with the name Sheward being put forth if Emma had been previously married but as she is only 23 on 1901 census with two kiddies age 1 and 2 months, I am beginning to doubt she was married before.

I'll keep the info you have given me in mind and continue wracking my brains. Thanks again.

1891:

Name: Emily Pillon
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Pillon
Mother's Name: Emily Pillon
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington, London, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 27
Folio: 35
Page Number: 82
Household Members: Name Age
William Pillon 45
Emily Pillon 34
Dollpher Pillon 15
Emily Pillon 13
Albert Pillon 11
Mabel Pillon 9
Ethel Pillon 6
Hubert Pillon 3

1891???

Name: Emily Pillon
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Pillon
Mother's Name: Emily Pillon
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington, London, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 27
Folio: 35
Page Number: 82
Household Members: Name Age
William Pillon 45
Emily Pillon 34
Dollpher Pillon 15
Emily Pillon 13
Albert Pillon 11
Mabel Pillon 9
Ethel Pillon 6
Hubert Pillon 3

Linda

Maybe names the other way round ???


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Births Jun 1878
Pullen Edith Emily - Kensington 1a 83

Births Jun 1878 (>99%)
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Pullen Edith Emily Kensington 1a 83

Births Dec 1899
Brown George William Kensington 1a 137

Births Mar 1900
Brown Lilian Kensington 1a 133

Either birth certificate should confirm their mother's maiden name.

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Births Sep 1915
BROWN Edward A Pullon Kensington 1a 238

Births Jun 1878
Pullen Edith Emily Kensington 1a 83

This is Emily Pullon in 1881

Name: Emily Pullon
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Pullon
Mother's Name: Emily Pullon
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 13 Convent Gardens

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
Folio: 130
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
William Pullon 30
Emily Pullon 25
Louisa Pullon 6
>>>>>>>>>Emily Pullon 3
William Pullon 1
Mary Ling 3
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Louisa Young 30
Sidney Jeffreys

is this the 1911 census for the family - for reference
BROWN, George James Head Married
12 years M 35 1876 Greengrocers Assistant London Kensington VIEW
BROWN, Emma Edith Wife Married F 33 1878 London Kensington VIEW
BROWN, George Son M 11 1900 School London Kensington VIEW
BROWN, Lillie Daughter F 10 1901 School London Kensington VIEW
BROWN, Alfred Son M 8 1903 School London Kensington VIEW
BROWN, Nellie Daughter F 7 1904 School London Kensington VIEW
BROWN, Tommy Son M 4 1907 London Kensington VIEW
BROWN, Violet Daughter F 3 1908 London Kensington VIEW
BROWN, Rose Daughter F 1 1910 London Kensington VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
182 Reference:
RG14PN182 RG78PN6 RD2 SD3 ED18 SN273

Registration District:
Kensington Sub District:
Kensington North Enumeration District:
18 Parish:
Kensington

Address:
65 Swinbrook Road County:
London

1911 census just for reference:


Name: George James Brown
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 65 Swinbrook Road, North Kensington
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 12
Estimated Marriage Year: 1899
Occupation: GREENGROCERS ASSISTANT
Registration district: Kensington
Registration District Number: 2
Sub-registration district: Kensington North
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 182
Household Members:
Name Age
George James Brown 35
Emma Edith Brown 33
George Brown 11
Lillie Brown 10
Alfred Brown 8
Nellie Brown 7
Toramy Brown 4
Violet Brown 3
Rose Brown 1

There's also this, but in 1913:

Civil Registration event: Marriage
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MarriageFinder: Emily E Pullon married George J Brown
Name: PULLON, Emily E
Registration district: Kensington
County: London
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Brown
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 357


Name: BROWN, George J
Registration district: Kensington
County: London
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Pullon
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 357