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17 Apr 2012 12:55 |
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I think that the 1891 Annie Douch might well be this Annie in 1881 with the location of Horsebridge.
However a tree on Ancestry lists this Annie with a marriage on 24 Dec 1892 - Cranbrook, Kent, to James William Stratford so the 1891 Annie Douch in Mile End is probably not the right Annie.
Edit - Just found Annie below in 1891 with parents so she is not the Annie in 1891 in Mile End
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Name: Annie S. Douch [Annie L. Douch] Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Benjamin Douch Mother's Name: Mary A. Douch Gender: Female Where born: Hellingly, Sussex, England Civil parish: Hellingly County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street Address: Upper Horsebridge Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Hailsham Sub-registration district: Hellingly ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1043 Folio: 14 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Douch 40 Mary A. Douch 30 Frank Douch 12 Sarah A. Douch 11 Annie S. Douch 6 Gertrude Douch 4 Alice M. Douch 2 George Pilbeam 23
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16 Apr 2012 18:37 |
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Glitterbaby, the John & Mary Ann Douch are my family from the Peckham area and I haven't yet found any connection with them and Lorraine's family but I live in hopes.
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16 Apr 2012 18:30 |
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I wonder Name: Annie Louisa Douch Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1874 Registration district: Hailsham Inferred County: Sussex, East Sussex Volume: 2b Page: 80
HORSEBRIDGE, a village in Hellingly parish, Sussex; on the river Cuckmere, adjacent to the Hailsham and Uckfield railway, 2 miles NNW of Hailsham.
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16 Apr 2012 18:28 |
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on the 1891 she says born Sussex again
Name: Annie Donch [Annie Douch] Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation: Pauper Gender: Female Where born: Horsebridge, Sussex, England>>>>>> Civil parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls Bow Common County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: Whitechapel Union Workhouse Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 313 Folio: 104 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age
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16 Apr 2012 18:27 |
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1911 no idea if connected or not
DOUCH, John Head Married M 62 1849 Bricklayer London Walworth VIEW DOUCH, Mary Ann Wife Married 56 years F 44 1867 London Walworth VIEW DOUCH, Flo Maud Daughter Single F 26 1885 Collar Machinist Laundry London Peckham VIEW DOUCH, Amelia Daughter Single F 21 1890 Shirt Machinist Laundry London Peckham VIEW DOUCH, Alfred Son Single M 18 1893 Traveller Soap Work London Peckham VIEW MARSHALL, Daisy Boarder Single F 26 1885 General Ironer Laundry East Dulwich London VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 2555 Reference: RG14PN2555 RG78PN86 RD27 SD5 ED12 SN341 Registration District: Camberwell Sub District: Peckham North Enumeration District: 12 Parish: Camberwell Address: 179 Summer Road Peckham S E 6 children - 5 still alive
Think the number of years married might be 36
They do have a daughter Ellen b 1882 but in Peckham So probably rules them out
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16 Apr 2012 18:22 |
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hi when she married in 1916 in horsham to henry light she is aged 36 so birth would be 1880 easthouse sussex in 1913 on her son alberts birth she is living at 136 crawley road aged 36? she died in 1954 her daughter mary grey was the informant she was aged 76 so birth would be 1878 but mary was unsure of her age when the death cert was done and it was done on the familys best guess lol mary is now suffering with memory loss unfortunatly and her sisters wont spill any beans on her daughter charitys birth record she is listed as annie daitch born east house sussex aged 43 so birth would be 1877 on her marriage her dad is john douch a bricklayer ??? i have lots of info on certs but still cant find her or records which would make sence i am hoping one day i will find her thanks for everyones help and vera i am hoping we share the same family one day and thanks for your help its really great :-D :-D :-D
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16 Apr 2012 17:46 |
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and Henry
Name: Henry Light Birth Date: abt 1876 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1943 Age at Death: 67 Registration district: Horsham Inferred County: Sussex Volume: 2b Page: 511
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16 Apr 2012 17:45 |
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Heres her death confirming an 1878 birth
Name: Annie Light Birth Date: abt 1878 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1954 Age at Death: 76 Registration district: Horsham Inferred County: Sussex Volume: 5h Page: 478
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16 Apr 2012 17:40 |
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1901 still says Eastbourne but now c 1878
LIGHT, Henry Head Married M 25 1876 Hawker Horsham Sussex VIEW LIGHT, Ann Wife Married F 23 1878 East Bourne Sussex VIEW LIGHT, Henry Son Single M 0 (11 MOS) 1901 Horsham Sussex VIEW LIGHT, Olive Visitor Married F 30 1871 Hawker Kent VIEW LIGHT, Lizzy Visitor Single F 10 1891 Dartford Kent VIEW LIGHT, Walter Visitor Single M 23 1878 Hawker Burgess Hill Kent VIEW Piece: 949 Folio: 55 Page: 13 Registration District: Horsham Civil Parish: Horsham Municipal Borough: Address: Star Road, Horsham, Roffey County: Sussex
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16 Apr 2012 17:29 |
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according to the 1911 she was born in Eastbourne c1881
LIGHT, Henry Head Married M 37 1874 Labourer General Burgess Hill Sussex VIEW LIGHT, Annie Wife Married F 30 1881 Eastbourne VIEW LIGHT, Walter Son M 9 1902 Horsham Sussex VIEW LIGHT, Rose Daughter F 7 1904 Horsham Sussex VIEW LIGHT, Elvy Daughter F 4 1907 Horsham Sussex VIEW LIGHT, Mary Daughter F 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Horsham Sussex VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 5255 Reference: RG14PN5255 RG78PN233 RD81 SD2 ED9 SN131 Registration District: Horsham Sub District: North Horsham Enumeration District: 9 Parish: Horsham Address: 136 Crawley Road Roffey Horsham County: Sussex married 13 years 6 children 2 died
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16 Apr 2012 17:27 |
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I'm always interested in your posts Lorraine as I am sure your Douch family and my Douch family will eventually tie up.
Am I being stupid here or am I missing something? If Choccy has found the death in 1903 of the Annie Douch that married Charles McKennie, then she can't be your Annie Douch that married Henry Light in 1916.
EDIT: Sorry, GR is being slow tonight and I submitted this before your earlier post was showing
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16 Apr 2012 17:26 |
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so she had another two after they married Births Mar 1914 (>99%) LIGHT Albert Douch Horsham 2b 490 Births Sep 1918 (>99%) Light Thomas D Douch Horsham 2b 459
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16 Apr 2012 17:23 |
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how old does she say she is on the marriage cert
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16 Apr 2012 17:12 |
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hi all so if that annie mckimmie dies in 1903 and he remarries then thats another dead end for my searches ??????? oh well i seem to have now ruled out all annie douch records for 1870 to 1885 and none are mine lol dont think i will ever find out the truth i rearly thought i might be getting some where today but never mind back to square one for the millionth time its a good job i keep my glass half full many thanks for all the help you are all brill :-D :-D :-D
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16 Apr 2012 17:04 |
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him being single in 1901 would make sence as i think she is living with henry light in horsham in 1901 listed as ann/annie light
when they got married how easy was it to get a divorse or could they just be separated for a few years then remarry ???? as she had lots of children with henry light but did not marry him till 1916 horsham and on that cert she says she is single lol she was in the work house white chapel union in 1891 listed as annie douch aged 17 a pauper domestic and i cant understand why she went in there when her family were living in the parish of penge croydon surrey then she marrys in 1874 but could not work out partner to trace them on lol thanks for your help all :-D :-D
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16 Apr 2012 17:03 |
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Deaths Jun 1903 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- McKimmie Annie 28 Derby 7b 322
looks like he re-married -
Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>Barrett Harriet Elizabeth Derby 7b 1162 Butler Florence Derby 7b 1162 >>>>McKIMMIE Charles Stewart Derby 7b 1162 Mills Benjamin Derby 7b 1162
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MCKIMMIE, Charles Stewart Head Married M 40 1871 Policeman Huntley Aberdeen Scotland Resident VIEW MCKIMMIE, Harriett Elizabeth Wife Married 5 years F 38 1873 Croyden Surrey VIEW MCKIMMIE, Mary Stewart Daughter F 4 1907 Derby Derbyshire VIEW MCKIMMIE, Charles Stewart Son M 3 1908 Derby Derbyshire VIEW MCKIMMIE, Maggie Stewart Daughter F 1 1910 Manchester Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 24106 Reference: RG14PN24106 RG78PN1385 RD466 SD1 ED18 SN278 Registration District: Manchester Sub District: Ancoats Enumeration District: 18 Parish: Manchester Address: Cottage Old Hall Every Street Ancoats Manchester County: Lancashire
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16 Apr 2012 17:01 |
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looks like Choccy has found her ! :-D
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16 Apr 2012 17:00 |
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1881 census 1881 England Census about Annie Douch Name: Annie Douch Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Daniel Douch Mother's Name: Ellen Douch Gender: Female Where born: Penge, Surrey, England Civil parish: Penge County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address: 34 Hawthorn Grove Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Croydon Sub-registration district: Croydon ED, institution, or vessel: 65 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 824 Folio: 117 Page Number: 59 Household Members: Name Age Daniel Douch 35 Ellen Douch 35 Edward Douch 12 Albert Douch 9 Annie Douch 7 Arnold Douch 1
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 824; Folio: 117; Page: 59; GSU roll: 1341194.
only one in the Croydon area
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16 Apr 2012 16:56 |
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thanks shirley so that means its between albert ernest ward and charles steward mckennie then, i could not find them and annie on the 1901 or 1911 census records i have been finding info on her all day then i found the marriage record and no luck since thanks for your help it is appriciated lorraine :-D :-D
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16 Apr 2012 16:55 |
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this could be them -
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MCKIMMIE, Charles S Head Married M 30 1871 Police Constable Scotland VIEW MCKIMMIE, Annie Wife Married F 27 1874 Penge Surrey VIEW MORTON, Hilda Visitor Single F 17 1884 Milliners Assistant Chesterfield Derbyshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 3220 Folio: 7 Page: 5 Registration District: Derby Civil Parish: Derby Municipal Borough: Address: 29, Olive Street, Derby County: Derbyshire
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