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Karen

Karen Report 8 Apr 2012 19:43

I am after some tips of places to look to find out what happened to my gg uncle. His story in a nutshell:

Stanley Malcolm Robert Gardner born 25th August 1888 in Bradwell Oxon to William James & Martha Gardner. 1 of 4 children. Married Priscilla Shepherd 25th December 1909 in Littlemore Oxford. They lived with his parents and youngest brother for a time (certainly on 1911 census).
By the time we was called to serve in World War 1, they were residing in 12 Sidney Street, Oxford and he was working at the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford as a Museum Attendant. (He listed himself as Malcolm Robert Stanley on his military papers). He joined the Royal Field Artillery and received 3 medals. On returning home he resumed employment with the museum. In 1947 he was the witness to his mothers death, at which time his address was stated as the museum. It is not certain, but I believe that he lived there without Priscilla. He retired from the museum on pension in 1959 and his service ended in 1961. This is where we lose all trace of him.
On the 1962,1963, 1965 and 1968 Electoral Rolls, Priscilla is listed at 12 Sidney Street, living alone. When she dies in 1968 she is listed as his wife in her occupation (stating only that he is retired, and not that she is a widow). He is not the witness to her death, her brother - Walter is. The Radcliffe Infirmary where she died do not keep visitor logs for the period, so there is no way of telling if he visited her at all. There is no mention of him in the notice of her death in the local paper from the time. She is buried alone in Rosehill Cemetary, Oxford in a double grave which was paid for by her brother Walters son in law - George Digweed.
There are no records that I can find of any children to this marriage. I cannot find a death registered in any variation of his name - all christian names and all spelling variations of his first name.
Without various information the DWP are unable to tell me where he was living from 1959 - 1961 receiving his pension.
Any ideas would be gratefully received to help me track him down. I have been looking for him on and off for a number of years now, and would love to be able to find out what became of him, especially as he had no descendants that I am aware of. He would have been 71 in 1961 when he retired completely.

Thank you very much for reading this, and any help.

Gee

Gee Report 8 Apr 2012 20:03

Have you checked this out


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Stanley M Gardner
Name: Stanley M Gardner
Birth Date: abt 1887
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1956
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Windsor
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 157

Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Apr 2012 20:08

Connection??

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
about Stanley Malcolm Robert Gardiner
Name: Stanley Malcolm Robert Gardiner
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1968
State: New South Wales
District: Kingsford-Smith
Subdistrict: Maroubra

Appears until 1980

Andy

Choccy

Choccy Report 8 Apr 2012 20:38



If that is him in Australia, on the Australian Electoral Rolls he is living with Violet Gardiner


Karen

Karen Report 8 Apr 2012 20:48

Gins, I did see that one, he was very much alive at this point as he changed job roles at the ashmolean in August 1956.

Andrew and Choccy, looks very promising. :) No idea who Violet is. Need to see if I can track down his move to Oz now to confirm. Confused as to why he would leave the country, but thats completly irrelevant. Now to see what my ancestry membership will allow me to view. Thanks very much. First lead I have had in years :)

Karen

Karen Report 8 Apr 2012 21:17

This would make him close to 100.
My membership is not letting me view australian records unless i upgrade my membership (£155).
A website that I found for he australian BMD only goes to 1981 for deaths and he is not listed on there.

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 8 Apr 2012 22:28

Try theis site....

http://www.ryersonindex.org/


good site looking for Deaths right up into the 2000.

Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Apr 2012 22:38

I had a look at the Australian records on Ancestry and can see no other entries in a simalar name.

Andy

Karen

Karen Report 9 Apr 2012 10:49

Thanks Sue, have just looked, can't see him on there either, but a useful website to bookmark for future.

Thanks Andrew for clarification, will save me the deliberation of upgrading my membership right away.

I wonder now if this is the right Stanley.... But it's the closest I have come in years, so going to follow the trail until it goes completely cold.

WhiffingSiggs

WhiffingSiggs Report 9 Apr 2012 14:08

Have you written to the museum ?!?

WhiffingSiggs

WhiffingSiggs Report 9 Apr 2012 14:10

http://www.ashmolean.org/contact/

Karen

Karen Report 9 Apr 2012 14:47

I have contacted the museum. I have his employment history from them and details of his final pension payment, but they are not aware of any details other than the amount as it was paid through an insurance company.
I am tempted to contact them again, but already went back and forth a few times and dont want to annoy them if I can help it... :-)

Karen

Karen Report 9 Apr 2012 15:18

In Stanleys service records, Priscilla for a time was living at 62 Osborne Road, Leicester in 1918.
The 1911 census brings up no results for this address and I am unable to locate the electoral roll for 1918 to hunt for clues. Any ideas?

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 9 Apr 2012 15:20

Karen,
Did you do the 3 spellings of Gardner/Gardener/Gardiner on the Ryerson Papers.????

Sue

Gee

Gee Report 9 Apr 2012 15:29

Did Stanley have any children with Priscilla

Karen

Karen Report 9 Apr 2012 15:39

Sue, I tried all 3 spellings, no joy :-( :-(

Gins, no children listed on military records, and none that I can see in bmd.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Apr 2012 15:56

1911 (for 62, Osborne Road)

MEMORY, Albert Edward Head Married M 40 1871 Boot And Shoe-Clicker Leicester Leicestershire
MEMORY, Emily Wife Married
MEMORY, Lilian Maud Daughter Single F 15 1896 Boot And Shoe Machinist Leicester Leicestershire
MEMORY, Sydney Oliver Son M 10 1901 Leicester Leicestershire
MEMORY, Cyril George Son M 3 1908 Leicester Leicestershire

17 years F 38 1873 Boot And Shoe Machinist
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19245 Reference:
RG14PN19245 RG78PN1151 RD407 SD2 ED28 SN207
Registration District:
Leicester Sub District:
North East Leicester Enumeration District:
28 Parish:
Leicester
Address:
62 Osborne Road Leicester County:
Leicestershire

Chris :)

Karen

Karen Report 9 Apr 2012 16:03

Thanks Chris. No idea what I was doing wrong, but it wouldnt let me bring it up.

Karen

Karen Report 13 Apr 2012 13:41

Hello all,
I am still trying to establish if the man in NSW is the correct Stanley, but with very limited access to Australian records and no sign of him on a passenger list, or a death record on the records I can view, its proving very difficult for me to discover one way or the other if this is him / what happened to him.
Also, how would i discover whether or not he got divorced? I know Priscilla is listed as his wife on her death certificate, but will take that with a pinch of salt for the time being, as according to the electoral rolls from the period, they were not living together in the years leading up to his death.

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 13 Apr 2012 15:06

Hi Karen
I had a look at this but can't see any trace of him in NSW, nor his death. As you say if he was on the electoral rolls here until 1980 he would have been in his 90s.
Sorry I can't help,
Cherilyn