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yes, thanks for that ann, thats the one i think those trees must mean. But as you say, there are so many johns for the time period and area that its impossible to find the right one. And having the names john and thomas does not help at all.
i am still considering it to be a john and betty as thomas and ann's first child is betty. And i now know she was born out of wedlock which may help.
thanks all
any other ideas for discovering the correct john would be most welcome.
regards
shirley

for ref I assume this is the marriage referred to

Marriage: 23 Apr 1810 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England
John Duxbury - Weaver of this Chapelry
Nancy Manley - (X), Spinster of this Chapelry
Witness: James Duxbury; James Ellis
Married by Banns by: W Wilkinson, Assistant Curate
Register: Marriages 1805 - 1812, Page 169, Entry 39
Source: LDS Film 1471065

but as you do doubt know there are several marriages around that area and time for a John and he is nearly always a weaver!

Hi again Mary
Think ive discovered which john duxbury they think is thomas's parent. Think its the one married in Colne. Well we have toyed with that idea before, as the dates fit, but as there is no sign of any proof, or there wasnt , i was never convinced. It would be nice to connect them to the Colne Duxbury's , especially as i work in Colne at the library and have access to lots of info on the Colne duxbury's. But i cant help thinking it may be wishful thinking on someones part. ?

thanks mary, wondering where this tree information has come from. tha nks though. Wonder how they managed to discover that, peter duxbury and people who continue his work and others have been trying for years to find this info. I will check it , thanks again. Does it say where john and ann nancy manley were married?? And where john was born in 1793? Yes, the fairburn info is correct, . We have always struggled with the early stuff, johns wifes name and who actually was this john etc.
Perhaps someone has found something like a will or burial details?
amazing.
regards
shirley

thanks mary, wondering where this tree information has come from. tha nks though. Wonder how they managed to discover that, peter duxbury and people who continue his work and others have been trying for years to find this info. I will check it , thanks again. Does it say where john and ann nancy manley were married?? And where john was born in 1793? Yes, the fairburn info is correct, . We have always struggled with the early stuff, johns wifes name and who actually was this john etc.
Perhaps someone has found something like a will or burial details?
amazing.
regards
shirley

Many trees have Thomas Duxbury's parents as John Duxbury 1793 and Ann Nancy Manley married 23/4/1810.
They have the same Thomas married to Ann Hurst in 1844 and Agnes Farnburn nee Alderson in Burnley 1867.J/F/M 8e 312
Thomas and Ann had 9 children according to the same trees.

Please check all info.

Maryb.

Betty born before marriage

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1844
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HURST Betty Oswaldtwistle Preston HURST OS/5/30

marriage for ref

Marriage: 18 Aug 1844 Immanuel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Thomas Duxbury - (X), 20 Labourer bachelor of Daisy Green
Anne Hurst - (X), full Weaver spinster of Daisy Green
Groom's Father: John Duxbury, Weaver
Witness: James? Carter, (X); Nancy Duckworth, (X)
Married by banns by: W. H Tatam
Notes: [deceased written underneath bride's father's names]
Register: Marriages 1840 - 1865, Page 17, Entry 34
Source: LDS Film 1470816

No, marriage was 1844:

Marriages Sep 1844 (>99%)
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DUXBURY Thomas Blackburn 21 53
HURST Anne Blackburn 21 53

yes, catherine, my thomas is that one you found on the 1851 Oswaldtwistel census. might be slightly out on marriage.

He moved over to marsden , then burnley on later census. died 1890. hanged himself. Leaning more towards, gt harwood rishton area.

Is this your Thomas?

1851 England Census about Thomas Duxbury

Name:Thomas Duxbury
Age:31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation:Lodger
Gender:M (Male)
Where born:Rishton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:Oswaldtwistle
Ecclesiastical parish:Emanuel
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district:Blackburn
Sub-registration district:Oswaldtwisle
ED, institution, or vessel:2f
Household schedule number:29
Piece:2260
Folio:190
Page Number:9
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Oldham 25
Isabella Oldham 24
Henry Isherwood 1
Ellen Isherwood 25

Thomas Duxbury 31
Ann Duxbury 38 born:Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire
Betty Duxbury 7
Richard Duxbury 5
Mark Duxbury 3

The one who married Ann Thornbro' had a father Timothy:

DUXBURY, Thomas Marriage
Wife: Ann THORNBRO
Marriage Date: 1 Jan 1838 Recorded in: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Mary the Virgin
Husband's Father: Timothy DUXBURY
Wife's Father: John THORNBRO
Source: FHL Film 1278817 Dates: 1836 - 1839

No, have certificate, definately Married ann hurst/hirst. Just havent got it handy. Dad defiantely john duxbury. Married in Oswaldtwistle. On the census in ossy on the 1851 and 1861. Kids richard, mark, betty(first child).
thanks.
could be living anywhere i guess, maybe darwin, oswaldtwistle, Rishton, maybe even blackburn, but just have a feeling more towards Oswaldtwistle or Rishton??
thanks
shirley

There are also 2 Thomas Duxbury's married in 1844 in Blackburn on FreeBMD.

Are you getting your info from this?

THOMAS DUXBURY Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 29 JUN 1822

Christening: 30 MAR 1823 Blackburn, Lancashire, England

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Parents:
Father: JOHN DUXBURY Family
Mother: BETTY

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Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.


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Source Information:
Batch Number: 9026231
Sheet: 49
Source Call No.: 1553827

.......if so don't forget that submitted entries may not be 100% correct. and there are at least two Thomas Duxbury's born about the same time, same place.
Are you absolutely sure that the Thomas you have found in 1851 is your man?

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Thomas DUXBURY Pedigree
Male Family
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Event(s):
Birth: 1819 Rishton, Lancashire, England
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Marriages:
Spouse: Ann THORNBRO Family
Marriage: 01 JAN 1838 St Mary, Blackburn, Lancashire, England

Married around 1844 !!

Does that mean you do not have the marriage cert ?

If you do then what is the occupation of his father ?

Witnessess - any possible relations ?

There's this one but not the same parents ?

1841 England Census about Thos Duxbury

Name:Thos Duxbury
Age:22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Gender:Male
Where born:Lancashire, England
Civil parish:Whalley
Hundred:Blackburn (Higher Division)
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district:Blackburn
Sub-registration district:Oswaldtwistle
Neighbors:
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Piece:509
Book:19
Folio:14
Page Number:20
Household Members:

Name Age
Thos Duxbury 37
Mary Duxbury 38
Thos Duxbury 22
Jane Duxbury 18
Samuel Duxbury 15
Sarah Duxbury 14
John Duxbury 7
Thos Duxbury 4



England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Thomas Duxbury
Name:Thomas Duxbury
Gender:Male
Birth Date:19 Oct 1818
Christening Date:6 Dec 1818
Christening Place:Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Age at Christening:0
Father's Name:Thomas Duxbury
Mother's Name:Margaret

Please could anyone find me my thomas duxbury on the 1841 census. He is age 31 in 1851 in oswaldtwistel. Married around 1844 in oswaldtwistel to ann nee hurst/hirst. Father john . Says born Rishton, but not certain about that. Not sure of his mums name, could be betty. Could live Great harwood, rishton or oswaldtwistel in 1841.
thanks
shirley