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Hi, thank you. I have only looked at the records for births on Ancestry. I did wonder if Gravesdend would have come under something else but I saw other entries for Gravesend so I guess it doesn't. I know that on her sisters marriage certificate the father is 'Harry Miller' but I haven't been able to find anything on him either, but maybe he's not the same father. I'm beginning to think they just dropped from the sky, I've never had so much trouble finding someone.

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to help me

Denise

You would think we could find Jane Emma with Emma in 1871, but No.

If Emma's Father really was George, how about?:

Deaths Dec 1866
Whiffin George 62 Bromley 2a 181

Just wondered if it would be worth applying for it, if you wanted the gamble of
a) correct person b) any useful information.

(And I have spent time looking for him in censuses and no joy yet.

Also, could this George be a relative (longer gamble as probably too old to be a son of the older George):
Marriages Jun 1880
WHIFFIN George Bromley 2a 564

Where have you looked for evidence of Emma's birth?

I am still trying to find out about Emma. I have her marriage certificate to William. She was 35 and a spinster. Both she and William were living at Bromley Common and her fathers' name was George. George was a groom and was deceased, the marriage was in Bromley, 24 September 1876 at Trinity Church, the witnesses were Mary Ann Checkly and Harry Checkly - who signed with 'x' as did Emma. Surname spelt' Whiffen'. I have looked at census records again and have still drawn a blank. Any light would be really helpful.

Denise

Thank you all for your help it is really appreciated. It's good to know that there are people who are willing to help when you hit a brick wall. Denise

Whiffing is one of those names of many spellings!!

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name: Louisa Elizabeth Whyfin
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 10 Mar 1872
baptism/christening place: FARNBOROUGH,KENT,ENGLAND
mother's name: Emma Whyfin
indexing project (batch) number: C13131-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 992462

Maureen

Births Mar 1872
Whiffin Louisa Elizabeth Bromley 2a 368

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Jane E Wiffin
Name: Jane E Wiffin
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1866
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Greater London, Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 291

She is not appearing anywhere so that marriage cert is absolutely essential !!

Dea Xxx

Just posting 1881 for information;
Emm Larkin [Emma Larkin]
Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Larkin
Gender: Female Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England
Civil parish: Bromley County/Island: Kent Country: England
Street Address: 9 Hollow Bottom Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Bromley Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Piece: 852 Folio: 50 Page Number: 14

William Larkin 46
Emm Larkin 40
Jane E. Wiffin 14 Bromley
Louisia E. Wiffin 9 Bromley
Henry W. Larkin 2
Eliza B. Larkin

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 852; Folio: 50; Page: 14; GSU roll: 1341202.

As MarieCeleste asked-DO you have the marriage cert for William and Emma???


Maureen

The 1881 census under William Larkin lists Jane Emma and Louisa Elizabeth as his step daughters. I am looking for anything pre 1881 that will give me a lead to Emmas family i.e. parents. I must admit that I hadn't thought of getting Louisas birth certificate to see if there is a fathers name, but my main objective is to try and get some more information on Emma.

Denise

What exactly are you looking for ?

How do you know she had a sister ?

Hello Denise - what was Emma's marital status on her marriage certificate to William Larkin?

Were there any fathers named on the girls birth certificates?

Emma & William's marriage certificate would also hopefully give details of her father to help trace her in earlier years.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1876
Larkin William Bromley 2a 546
Whiffen Emma Bromley 2a 546

Emma was born in 1841 in Gravesend,Kent. She had her first child Jane Emma in 1867 in Bromley and her second - my gt. grandmother - Louisa Elizabeth in 1872. I can only trace her from 1881 when she had married William Larkin. The space for her father on Louisas' marriage certificate is blank but on her sisters' it names 'Harry Miller'. I have looked at census forms for the appropriate years but have come up with nothing. Can someone guide me please?
Denise