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I can't see a sign of an emigration and they would have stayed in Scotland long enough for their children to be independant.

I wonder if John died young and Christina/Christian remarried. There are one or two options. I also presume you have discounted the Christina Hart and children living in Paisley in 1841. I couldn't see any christenings for these children with right mother's name

Kx

nudge

Anne,

Yes, i've worked that bit out now :-) .... but sadly there are sooooo many Christian Smith's born around the right time in Glasgow, it's hard to find the right one :-(

Just because she came from Parkhead at the time of marriage, doesn't mean she/they were born there :-(

K,

I cannot find their deaths, this is also frustrating me!

Could they have actually gone to Canada?


T x

Hi Wayne,
RE : birth of Robert Hart in Barony 1807.
The OPR usually states where the family were living at the time.
They were living in Parkhead. (in the East End of Glasgow )

Have you found the death of either which would help with their birth dates?

Kx

It's also worth noting as i have mention previously, i now think the word 'Parkhead' after Christian Smith's name is actually her birth location.

Soooo, i need to narrow down her birth, but it seems Christian isn't an uncommon name... and add the Smith bit and there are hundred's of them :-(

T x

Wow, you guys are awesome.... it'll certainly give me more to work on :-D

We know for sure they, or at least John, was not local to the area.

So i need to unpick the Canadian part of it and maybe drill down into anything that might be relevant :-)

Thanks again, really appreciate it :-D


T x

Another snippet in March 1804 same newspaper, says "an officer had been to Mull to recruit for the Canadian Regiment, and has been very successful. It is a matter of surprise that others are not sent to the Western Isles immediately, for our correspondent says "the inhabitants are coming from all quarters in boatfuls to enlist".

Chris :)

A bit more re Robertson and Lochaber http://www.militaryheritage.com/fd_offr.htm Edit - Looks more likely that John was born and recruited in Scotland

The same month Shank (1810) was promoted to major general, the Canadian Fencibles' major, George Robertson, became a lieutenant colonel in the regiment. Robertson, "a steady, intelligent, and active officer... much more calculated to the task" took direct command of the corps. A former major of the Lochaber Fencibles in Scotland in the 1790s, the 41 year-old Robertson became the sole field officer present with the regiment through the latter half of 1811 and the beginning of 1812.

"Arrived at Glasgow on the 1st, Major Robertson from Fort William Lochaber, with 150 brave young Highlanders for the Canadian Regiment. From the appearance of all the recruits we have seen belonging to this corps it will be one of the best corps in his Majesty's service".

(saw the above snippet in below newspaper, wondered if related!)

Caledonian Mercury (Edinburgh, Scotland), Saturday, June 9, 1804


Chris :)

You are right Tracey.

I have looked at the image you sent and it certainly does say 'Canadian' !

I will see if I can find anything.

K's little snippet looks useful!

Dea x

Hmmmm,

Nice find K, sorry had to go offline suddenly last night :-s

I will have a look and see whether that regiment came to Scotland around that time :-)

Dae, i have sent you a pm with the image.


T x

Just a thought Trace, as we are talking about Scotland here and you have mentioned Glasgow.

Do you think it could say:

"Caledonian regiment of foot" ??

Many of these Regiments were stationed around the Glasgow area.

There is lots on google if you think this is a possibility.

It seems to make rather more sense that 'Canadian' ?

Dea x

I wonder re this in Montreal

REGISTER OF THE
84TH REGIMENT OF FOOT
BAPTISMS 1779-1791

1781 February 19 (born Feb 1st) John HART Jonathan HART & Elizabeth, Private Soldier in the 1st Battallion of the 84th Regiment of Foot

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~qcmtl-w/84thRegBMD.htm

Ok, having done a small look about, i think Christian came from Parkhead, Glasgow....

So maybe she met him and married him quickly?

T x

There are a few Heart family's with a female called Christian :-(

I've fallen over a few already in my search.

I wouldn't dismiss it, but uptil now none of them have really done anything outside of Lanarkshire.

They've either come from elsewhere and marriage etc there, but i haven't had any move around once there.

Like i say i'll def have a look tho, with him being a soldier they could have moved about.

I need to check out the East India Company too i suppose!

T x

T x

I believe there were many different regiments of foot in Canada.

Is this a brother of Robert? But not Lanarkshire:

HEART, James Christening
Gender:
Birth Date: 1 Oct 1808
Christening Date: 8 Oct 1808 Recorded in: Eaglesham, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Father: John HEART
Mother: Christian SMITH
Source: FHL Film 1041088 Dates: 1808 - 1808

K,

There is no marriage cert!

The entry is exactly as i have stated... 3 lines on a page of numerous other marriages :-(

if only things were that easy in 1804 :-D

T x

Well Margee,

I'm not too sure he was actually Canadian? maybe he's come in from Canada and it's just been written as such by the church vicar?

I'm struggling to find anything on the Canadian Regiment of Foot? ....i mean did it actually exist, or was it a 'pet' term the guys used for what they actually were?

....and if they were there for 3 days, where were the Banns read?

K, thanks for that find, he is one of mine.... and the Mother is listed as Christian again.

I shall have to redo a search with the word Christian.


T x