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Hi Ivy

OK, I hope Chris undestands this, it can be confusing for new genealogists :-S

Hi Gins, I don't think Christine is thinking along divorce lines now. When I looked at the thread, it was all sewn up, except that Chris had said that she found the listings on FMP re divorce a bit obscure. Since I found these tricky when looking up the Boteler divorce on another thread, I thought I would add my thoughts on the layout of the divorce generally - and not to suggest that Christine's Hugh Bradford was involved -sorry for creating confusion.....

Now Im confused!


Where has any evidence of a divorce been found?


The 'facts' are, he died and left his estate, to his widow ( Amelia) Why are you still questioning this point Chris?

thanks ivy,the divorce procedure is a bit clearer now,chris

Just adding a comment about the layout of the divorce records -

the divorce would be carried out through the courts, by one spouse calling a case against the other spouse, often on the grounds of adultery, and therefore joining the other party into the case. So for instance, if Mr Kramer wanted to sue for divorce against Mrs Kramer on the grounds of adultery with Mr Smith, then his name would appear first, and then hers with that of the co-respondent: Kramer v Kramer & Smith.

One point I have just realised is that since cases with the same appellant initial are all listed on the same page, the clerks would often abbreviate the spouse's surname - i.e. one might see Brown v B & Smith, or Jones vs J & Black.

In the case of the two listings for Bradford in 1880, both concern the same divorce (case 6734, Mr and Mrs Jenkinson) and co-respondent's surname is Bradford.

Hi Brummiejan, the 2 deaths you found make Amelia born in 1843 in both cases, could there be so much age difference as im sure she was born 1837 thank you for helping,chris

I don't think the above death is yours - I have found an Amelia Bradford aged 68 in 1911, living Birmingham.
Hey ho!
Jan

thanks again Brummiejan ill check this if so she should be on the 1911 census she would be 74 years old by then

thanks Brummiejan im still looking for her in 1891 iwonder if she went traveling with her inheritance? i could check passenger lists regards chris

Have you considered this one?

Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%)
Bradford Amelia 75 Birmingham 6d 297

This is Amelia 1901 - surname Ebbern on marriage:

1901 England Census

Name: Amelia Bradford
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Stafford
Ecclesiastical parish: Castle Church
County/Island: Staffordshire

Registration district: Stafford
Sub-registration district: Stafford

Mary A Ebbern 44
Ethel M Ebbern 23
Margaret V Ebbern 15
Phyllis M Ebbern 13
Amelia Bradford 64
Jane Litterton 26
Sarah A Evans 25

thanks im learning all he time thanks to all the helpers out there\. \i cant find Amelia in the 1891 census ive found a amelia bradford a widow born abt 1834 buts she a char women woldnt think she do that after being left that money in the will she living in surrey and the place of birth doesnt match either,The only death i can find for Amelia is in 1908 aged 69 June Q Reg.district Godstone Surrey Ive been on this couple for hours any chance you could help me, thanks chris

The will was proven in Llandrindod Wells, Radnor, died at 13 Royal Cres, Weymouth


Its the same person, I assure you :-)

thanks everyone sorry i made a mistake hughs middle name is meller his
mothers maid ename

Hi Gins its just that his wife and youngest daughter are away from there own home in the 1881 census expect my imagination is running away with me.I have Hugh Meller Bradford death in Weymouth Dorset Dec Q 1886 yet your death for Hugh is in Radnorshire Wales, My ref for the death is GRO ref 5A 195 its such an unusual name but they cant be the same person? dates match though, I know he did live in Wales in the 1861 thanks agian

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941
about Hugh Meller Bradford <<Engineer
Name: Hugh Meller Bradford
Probate Date: 7 Mar 1887
Death Date: 16 Nov 1886
Death Place: Radnorshire, Wales
Registry: Hereford


To his widow Amelia £1207 5s 4d


I dont think he would have left his estate to his ex wife, looks like they were still married

1881 England Census
about Hugh M. Bradford
Name: Hugh M. Bradford
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Guest
Gender: Male
Where born: Swansea Walters Rd

Civil parish: Castle Church
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 1 North Western Terrace North Western Hotel
Condition as to marriage: Married<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Occupation: Civil Engineer

Registration district: Stafford
Sub-registration district: Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2688
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2



They are both listed as married in 1881

Deaths Dec 1886 (>99%)
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BRADFORD Hugh Meller 48 Weymouth 5a 195


Just because they were not together in 1881, it doesnt mean they divorced, he could have been working away from home

Are you sure about the middle name?


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Hugh Miller Bradford
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1837
Christening Date: 31 Jan 1837
Christening Place: Stone, Staffordshire, England
Father's Name: John Bradford
Mother's Name: Edith

please can anyone help with explaining the written work on the divorce section on find my past.. Hugh W Bradford born1837 and amelia born 1837 she was born in stoke on trent and hugh in staffordshire in the 1881 census hes staying in a hotel and amelia is a boarder with her daughter elizabeth (1871) in stafford . I clicked on divorce on FMP but I dont understand the results they say there are 2 results for Bradford in 1880 which would fit but I dont understand the format help please, regards chris