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Hi,

I now know my tree on ancestry is correct and two other trees are wrong. They mixing up the details of other Thomas Wigley's

They have Thomas Hugh Wigley born 1828 marrying Jane Ward in 1856 in Coventry and being in Leicestershire in 1861, then mix up there details with Thomas Wigley and Jane Eleanor Wigley and add there census returns.

The Thomas Wigley who married Jane Ward in 1856, dies in 1869 brixworth Dec 1869 brixworth 3b 80. His widow in still there in 1871, in Walgrave Brixworth Northants. Later that year she marries a William Gibson

I found Ralph + family in 1881 by leaving out the surname - and looking through the results till a possible match came up.

Always try using the least possible data if finding people is problemmatical

Looks like Emily married Thomas Kemp Walker:-
1911

WALKER, Thomas Kemp Head Married M 41 1870 School Caretaker London Camberwell
WALKER, Ethel Emily Wife Married 7 years F 34 1877 Essex West Ham
WALKER, Thomas Edward Son M141897 Errand BoyBow London
WALKER, Dorothy Beatrice Daughter F 12 1899 School Bow London
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RG number: RG14
Piece: 9515
Reference: RG14PN9515 RG78PN508 RD188 SD4 ED45 SN112
Registration District:West Ham
Sub District: Canning Town
Enumeration District: 45
Parish:West Ham
Address: School House Cumberland Road
County:Essex

Many thanks one and all for your help

Looks as though Ralph could quite possibly have married before he died:-

Marriages Mar 1897 (>99%)
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Johnson Ethel Emily W. Ham 4a 239
Wigley Ralph W.Ham 4a 239

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and a possible remarriage for his wife::-

Marriages Sep 1903 (>99%)
Brown Emily Elizabeth Edmonton 3a 960
Knight William Edmonton 3a 960
Walker Thomas Kemp Edmonton 3a 960
Wigley Ethel Emily Edmonton 3a 960

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The couple in 1901:-


1901 England Census about Ralph Wigley

Name:Ralph Wigley
Age:26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Ethel Emily Wigley
Gender:Male
Where born:Hackney, London, England
Civil parish:West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish:St Stephen
County/Island:Essex
Country:England
Street Address: 6 Kirton Road
Occupation: Time Keeper at Docks
Registration district:West Ham
Sub-registration district:Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel:25
Household schedule number:272
Piece:1571
Folio:131
Page Number:34
Household Members:
Name Age
Ralph Wigley 26
Ethel Emily Wigley 25

Hi Reggie,

Thanks for finding 1881 tried different combinations but never thought of Wigtey!

1881

Name: Ralph Wigtey
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry T. Wigtey
Mother's Name: Jane E. Wigtey
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bromley St Leonard
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 23 Glencoe St
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 502
Folio: 76
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Henry T. Wigtey 54 Occupation: Messenger (Office)
Jane E. Wigtey 40
Henry D. Wigtey 11
Louisa J. Wigtey 9
Ralph Wigtey 7

Name: Henry David Wigley
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1870
Baptism Date: 2 Jan 1870
Father's Name: Thomas Henry Wigley
Mother's Name: Jane Wigley
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone St Thomas
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

1901

Name: Jane Wigley
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington, London, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Essex
Country: England


Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 229
Piece: 1569
Folio: 152
Page Number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Wigley 60
Louisa Wigley 29

1891

Name: J E Wigley
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: J H Wigley
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England


Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 55
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1329
Folio: 91
Page Number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
J H Wigley 63
J E Wigley 50
Louisa Wigley 19
Rapth Wigley 16

1871 for reference

Name: Jane E Wigley
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas H Wigley
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St George the Martyr
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St George the Martyr
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 405
Piece: 370
Folio: 30
Page Number: 62
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas H Wigley 43
Jane E Wigley 30
Henry D Wigley 1 Year, 3 Months

Name: Ralph Wigley
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1874
Baptism Date: 24 May 1874
Father's Name: Thomas Henry Wigley
Mother's Name: Jane Eleanor Wigley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Victoria Park St Mark
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers


Name: Ralph Wigley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1901
Age at Death: 27
Registration district: Southwark
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 6

Yes all those records are then, but not been able to find 1881 and some trees are mixing up the details with Thomas wigley from Leicestershire in 1861, who I think is a different person

David Henry or Henry David ??

Name: Henry David Wigley
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: 5 Dec 1869
Baptism Date: 2 Jan 1870
Father's Name: Thomas Henry Wigley - coach maker
Mother's Name: Jane Wigley
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone St Thomas
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers



27 James St

Thomas Henry borm c 1828 occupation coach maker as was his father Josiah according to church register for his marriage. born London. Jane Eleanor born in Kensington in 1851 she is listed as Jane Bumpstead aged 10 parents Samuel and Mary

1871 ??

Name: Jane E Wigley
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas H Wigley
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St George the Martyr
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St George the Martyr
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 405
Piece: 370
Folio: 30
Page Number: 62
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas H Wigley 43
Jane E Wigley 30
Henry D Wigley 1 Year, 3 Months

Different occupation - mercantile messenger

Is this her in 1901?


1901 England Census about Jane Wigley

Name:Jane Wigley
Age:60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation:Head
Gender:Female
Where born:Kensington, London, England
Civil parish:West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints
County/Island:Essex
Country:England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district:West Ham
Sub-registration district:Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel:13
Household schedule number:229
Piece:1569
Folio:152
Page Number:32
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Wigley 60
Louisa Wigley 29

Just for info

Name: Thomas Wigley - coach maker
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Spouse Name: Jane Eleanor Bumstead
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Sep 1867
Parish: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Josiah Wigley
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Christopher Bumstead
Register Type: Parish Register

Where were any of them born ?

What was the occupation of Thomas Henry ?

Hi,

Trying to find what happened to Jane Eleanor and her husband and children. She married Thomas Henry Wigley in 1867 in Marylebone.Looks like they lived in West Ham in 1890s, can't find the family in 1881. (Can't find Thomas in 1861).
Possible record of Jane Eleamor dying in 1908 but recorded as Eleanor Jane. Not sure what happened to children David Henry born 1869, can't find 1881 census so don't know if survived. Louisa born 1872 not sure what happened to her after 1901
Can anyone help?
Regards
Mark