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1911 - Nancy is not enumerated with Harry

2 Newtown Terrace Hedon Road

LAWRENCE, Nancy Head Married
22 years F 54 1857 Yorkshire Hull VIEW
SHAW, Amy Ann Daughter Single F 25 1886 Yorkshire Hull VIEW
CARMICHAEL, James William Nephew Single M 16 1895 Clerk Yorkshire Hull VIEW
CARMICHAEL, Albert Nephew Single M 14 1897 Handing
Rivets Lad Yorkshire Hull VIEW
CARMICHAEL, Ethel May Niece Single F 9 1902 Yorkshire Hull

Of 5 chilldren 4 have died

Groom's Name: Harry Lawrence
Groom's Birth Date: 1858
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 30
Bride's Name: Nancy Shaw
Bride's Birth Date: 1857
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 31
Marriage Date: 13 May 1888
Marriage Place: Hull, York, England
Groom's Father's Name: William Henry Lawrence
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: James Carmichael
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Widowed
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01478-8
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1657074
Reference Number: 1715 v3 p191 cn382

Yes have his birth cert shows parents as Henry & Rebecca (Henry as Lace Agent) its just the fact that I cant really tie him down given that his occupation changed, he died as a result of his ship being sunk during WW1, that I do know, its just niggling me that I cant find him in 1891

You might need his birth cert to be sure. I see he married as Harry though, assuming this is him:

Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%)
Lawrence Harry Hull 9d 322
Shaw Nancy Hull 9d 322
STRAKER George Fox Hull 9d 322
Watson Ann Hull 9d 322

a john and phoeby booth , the marriage was in Hull so there were no members of his family present I guess.

Who are the witnesses on the marriage cert?

I agree, what is confusing me is he shown as a newspaper reporter with his father a lace agent and on his marriage certificate he is a marine fireman and his father a mining engineer, would the 1891 census have included those at sea?

????

Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
Lawrence Henry 30 Doncaster 9c 464

The 1881 found by jansmith looks very possible then?

If all else fails!

Births Sep 1859 (>99%)
Lawrence Henry Nottingham 7b 212

Jan

I think all this info is correct, but I can't find him in 1891, there are a couple of anomalies that I have to sort re his parentage, on his marriage certificate in 1888 he states his father is a mining engineer but other census records show he is a lace agent, Oh and the Marine something is I believe Marine Fireman

Thanks perhaps not on a census then?

Marine something?

1891 family without husband ,could someone look on image to see what it says "wife of???? but then crossed out Thank You.
42, Clifton Terrace, Holy Trinity And St Mary, Kingston Upon Hull

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3944 Folio: 63 Page: 30


Reg. District: Hull Sub District: Myton
Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary Enum. District: 70
Ecclesiastical District: St Thomas City/Municipal Borough: Kingston upon Hull
Address: 42, Clifton Terrace, Holy Trinity And St Mary, Kingston Upon Hull
County: Yorkshire (East Riding)

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
LAWRENCE, Nancy Wife Married F 34 1857
Kingston upon Hull
Yorkshire
LAWRENCE, Jane Daughter Single F 14 1877
Kingston upon Hull
Yorkshire
LAWRENCE, Edward Son M 10 1881 Scholar
Kingston upon Hull
Yorkshire
LAWRENCE, Amy A Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Kingston upon Hull
Yorkshire
LAWRENCE, Dina Daughter F 0 (9M) 1891
Kingston upon Hull
Yorkshire

For Ref - Is this him in 1871
LAWRENCE, Henry Head M 44 1827 Nottinghamshire VIEW
LAWRENCE, Rebecca Wife F 43 1828 Nottinghamshire VIEW
LAWRENCE, Emily Daughter F 19 1852 Nottinghamshire VIEW
LAWRENCE, Herbert Son M 16 1855 Nottinghamshire VIEW
>> LAWRENCE, Harry Son M 12 1859 Nottinghamshire VIEW
COE, Elizabeth Servant F 17 1854 Derbyshire



Person: LAWRENCE, Harry
Address: Mansfield Road, St Mary, Nottingham VIEW

1901?
45, Adelaide Street Clifton Terrace, Holy Trinity And St Mary

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 4504 Folio: 149 Page: 42


Reg. District: Hull Sub District: Myton
Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary Enum. District: 24
Ecclesiastical District: St Thomas' City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 45, Adelaide Street Clifton Terrace, Holy Trinity And St Mary
County: Yorkshire (East riding)

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
LAWRENER, Harry Head Married M 43 1858 Stationary Engine Driver
Nottingham
LAWRENER, Nancy Wife Married F 44 1857
Hull
Yorkshire
LAWRENER, Edward Son Single M 20 1881 Stone Mason
Hull
Yorkshire
LAWRENER, Amy Daughter Single F 15 1886 Bass Handle Maker Bass Warehouse
Hull
Yorkshire
LAWRENER, Lavinia Daughter Single F 8 1893 School
Hull
Yorkshire

not seeing him in 1891 or 1901 at the moment

? 1911
Victoria Mansions, VICTORIA MANSIONS, GREAT PASSAGE STREET, HULL

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN28768 RD522 SD1 ED20 SN9999


Reg. District: Hull Sub District: Humber
Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary Enum. District: 20
Address: Great Passage Street Hull
County: Yorkshire (East riding)

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
LAWRENCE, Harry Lodger Married M 52 1859 Labourer Nottingham

1881 is this him?

881 census transcription details for: 106, Victoria Ter Queens Walk, Nottingham St Mary

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 3365 Folio: 73 Page: 10


Reg. District: Nottingham Sub District: Castle
Parish: Nottingham St Mary Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 106, Victoria Ter Queens Walk, Nottingham St Mary
County: Nottinghamshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
LAWRENCE, Henry Head Married M 54 1827 Lace Agent
Nottingham
LAWRENCE, Rebecca Wife Married F 53 1828 Wife
Nottingham
LAWRENCE, Henry Son Single M 21 1860 Newspaper Reporter
Nottingham
LILO, Lillian G Grand Daughter Single F 5 1876
Nottingham

sorry, he was born 1859