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My father's aunt Hilda Major born 1900 Thorne, yorkshire, married Johannes C Priele 1919 Hull. he was a Dutchman from America, but i cannot find out when she went to America or where she lived.
I have found a J Priele and Jack Priele on Ellisisland.org they travelled back and arrived in New York Jan 19 1920 it says J Priele was a New York resident but nothing for Hilda.
I have tried genes passenger lists nothing. I have tried familysearch hoping to find them on an american census or anything else but nothing.
I have tried genes passport applications but again nothing. I know she was still there in the 1950's
Please could anyone help.
thankyou

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Hilda Priele
Name: Hilda Priele
Birth Date: abt 1898
Age: 29
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 27 Feb 1927
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Boston
Ship Name: Celtic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Celtic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 113476

(going to 58, Woodhouse St. Hull)

Chris :)

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Marriages Jun 1929 (>99%)
Bernard George W Priele Medway 2a 1757 xxxxxxxx
Chalkley Edward F Williams Medway 2a 1757
Priele Hilda Bernard Medway 2a 1757 xxxxxxxx
WILLIAMS Edith R Chalkley Medway 2a 1757

Name: Hilda Bernard
Event: Census
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Brooklyn (Districts 0751-1000), Kings, New York
Gender: Female
Age: 30
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Estimated Birth Year: 1900
Immigration Year: 1929
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Enumeration District Number: 0769
Family Number: 237
Sheet Number and Letter: 12A
Line Number: 2
NARA Publication: T626, roll 1530
Film Number: 2341265
Digital Folder Number: 4638816
Image Number: 00949
Household Gender Age
Spouse George W Bernard M 32
Hilda Bernard F 30
Phillip Hanson M 42

thankyou, this still does not tell me when she first went out or what happened to first husband.

The 3 Prieles on the Ellis Island site, J., John and Jack, all refer to the same person, I believe. He was a menber of the ship's crew, a steward, born Holland.

Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974

Name: John Cornelus Priele
State: New York
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Southern District, New York
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
Naturalization Record Number: 233542

dated 1st June 1929


EDIT - address in USA is 348 Senator Street, Brooklyn



He was born on 5th October 1885 in Rotterdam.


States married to Hilda in November 1919. She was born in Thorne on 5th August 1900. He says he is a Widower (!) and Hilda died in 1919 in England. (looks like he was stretching the truth ...)

1930 Census of Merchant Seamen
about John C Priele
Name: John C Priele
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Holland
Race: White
Port in 1930: New York, Westchester, New York
Page: 23A
Ship Name: Steel Age

(does that say next of kin Hilda, on image, (if anyone can check!)

Chris :)


Outgoing Passengers

Name: Hilda BERNARD
Date of departure: 8 August 1929
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Date of Birth: 1898 (calculated from age)
Age: 31
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Housewife
Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 15
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
GEORGE WASHINGTON
Captain A B Randall
United States Lines
New York, USA
13472
13902
362

Yes, I believe it says next-of-kin, w Hilda, 348 Granton?, Brooklyn, NY.

NOK - Hilda, 348 Senator St, Brooklyn

(same address as on Petition for Naturalization - which I omitted to post)


seems he's making it up as he goes along!

wonder what Hilda's status is on her 2nd marriage certificate?

This looks like the arrival of Hilda from the outgoing list that Chris posted:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Hilda Bernard
Arrival Date: 16 Aug 1929
Birth Year: abt 1898
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: thorne <<
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Washington

her nok in England was her sister Mrs Groscoigne in Gillingham. She says she'd never been to the US before!!

Her onward destination is described as Mrs (think that's Mr) GW Bernard at 375 Glenmore Avenue, Brooklyn. Next to the address is typed "Home"

Also, on the 1930 census posted above, it states Hilda was 29 at her first marriage!! (So what about the first one to Johannes Priele?)

This is Hilda's naturalisation - note the birthdate:

Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974 about Hilda Bernard
Name: Hilda Bernard
Age: 24
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1898 << born in Yorkshire, England
Spouse's Name: George
Naturalization Date: 22 Sep 1922 (actually 1932)
State: New York
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Eastern District, New York
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization

Her arrival in the US and last residence tie up with the incoming shipping record I posted.

She lived 335 44th Street Brooklyn, with George. They'd married 24 June 1929 in Medway. They had no children. George was born 22 Feb 1898 in Brooklyn.

Based on the birthdate that Hilda provided for her naturalisation, this must be her death:

Social Security Death Index
Name: Hilda Bernard
SSN: 078-07-0295
Last Residence: 92010 Chula Vista, San Diego, California, United States of America
Born: 17 Jan 1898
Died: Oct 1977
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

Births Mar 1900 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Major Hilda Thorne 9c 911


(lol MC, where does above Hilda fit in, gets more puzzling!)

Chris :)

Chris, Hilda Major appears to have married Johannes Priele but then returned to England in 1927. Then, in 1929 she married George W Bernard (the record safc posted earlier today). They went back to US in 1929 (the outgoing shipping record that you posted).

That's where she fits in!

The birthdate is a bit different but given that she fibbed about never having been married before or never in US, well ....

Hi everyone i am totally confused thanks for all your help.
I know Hilda born 1900 Thorne married Johannes Priele in 1919 because i have the marriage certificate..
but that does not help does it why would she say she was born 1898?

Reckon they had big pimples on their tongues MC, lol, it was the below bit, from her Naturalization on Choccy's post that threw me!.

She was born in Thorne on 5th August 1900

Chris :)

Bigbird, we'll never know why people don't always tell the truth, perhaps because they don't know it themselves!

I really think you need to get a copy of that 1929 marriage certificate in Medway.

Bigbird, does the address 272 Beckett Road, Wheatley, Doncaster mean anything to you? That's where they were heading.

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Hilda Bernard
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1898
Age: 59
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 8 Apr 1957
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Queen Elizabeth
Shipping Line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 7601/01

Accompanied by husband George, a marine engineer. They were staying 6 weeks.

EDIT: On their return trip to the US they also said they'd been staying at 13, Acacia Drive, Laburnum Avenue, Hull.