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How do i find out if the Sawyer family and the Sayer family from Hagbourne in Berkshire are one family Someone on another website e-mail me and they have said that the Sawyer family are a line from the Sayer family, but i am not sure that they are one family
Thank you Sandy

Can you give a few more details, please, Sandra. First names, DOB's, etc

Hi
Job Sawyer born 1821 is the son of Charles and Mary Sawyer also Charles Sawyer born 1823 son of Charles and Mary Sawyer,but the only marriage i can find is for a Charles Sayer and a Mary Lambourn on the 20/01/1805 at st andrew Hagbourne Berkshire
Thank you Sandy

The family are transcribed as Sayer on the 1841 but the image is so faint I cannot find them on it:

1841 England Census
about Charles Sayer
Name: Charles Sayer
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Gender: Male
Where born: Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Hagbourne
Hundred: Moreton
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Wallingford
Sub-registration district: Cholsey
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 23
Book: 11
Folio: 11
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Sayer 55
Mary Sayer 55
John Sayer 25
Charles Sayer 17


This birth would tie in with the 1805 marriage:

JAMES SAYER Pedigree
Christening: 09 JUN 1805 Hagbourne, Berkshire, England

Father: CHARLES SAYER Family
Mother: MARY

Children of Charlew Sawyer and Mary:

1. CHARLOTTE SAWYER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 DEC 1810 Hagbourne, Berkshire, England

2. WILLIAM SAWYER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: OCT 1807 Hagbourne, Berkshire, England

3. JOHN SAWYER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 MAY 1813 Hagbourne, Berkshire, England

4. JOSEPH SAWYER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 FEB 1816 Hagbourne, Berkshire, England

5. THOMAS SAWYER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 14 JUN 1818 Hagbourne, Berkshire, England

6. JOB SAWYER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 APR 1821 Hagbourne, Berkshire, England

7. CHARLES SAWYER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 31 AUG 1823 Hagbourne, Berkshire, England

This looks like the James b1805, now as Sawyer:

1841 England Census
about James Sawyer
Name: James Sawyer
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Hagbourne
Hundred: Moreton
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Wallingford
Sub-registration district: Cholsey
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 23
Book: 11
Folio: 13
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
James Sawyer 35
Elizabeth Sawyer 30
Thomas Sawyer 12
George Sawyer 10
Charlotte Sawyer 8
John Sawyer 6
Benjamin Sawyer 5
Jas Sawyer 3

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Job Sawyer
Name: Job Sawyer
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Spouse Name: Jane Williams
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Aug 1852
Parish: Holloway St James
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Charles Sawyer CARRIER****
Register Type: Parish Register

Possible baptism for Charles snr (1851 census gives DOB 1781 and POB Hagbourne):

Charles Sayer
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 08 Feb 1782 HAGBOURNE,?BERKSHIRE,?ENGLAND
residence: Berkshire,? England
parents: John Sayer,? Elizabeth

I think it looks as if the family name started as Sayer and changed to Sawyer. The original parish records may have more info, such as an address or father's occupation.

Thank you everyone for the information and your time I think i will have to go buy a copy of the parish records Thank you Sandy

Thank you everyone for the information and your time I think i will have to go buy a copy of the parish records Thank you Sandy

So who do you wish to know about Job or Charles junior please?

1851 England Census
about Job Sawyer
Name: Job Sawyer
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Brother
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Hayburn, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:Chaff Cutter


Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Piece: 1499
Folio: 254
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Sawyer 39 Brother*********
Elizabeth Sawyer 30
William Sawyer 12
Job Sawyer 28 UNMARRIED***********


1871 England Census
about Job Sawyer
Name: Job Sawyer
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Sawyer
Gender: Male
Where born: East Hagbourne, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Islington St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 176
Piece: 282
Folio: 90
Page Number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Job Sawyer 49
Jane Sawyer 43
Charles George Sawyer 18
Frederick William Sawyer 15
Louisa Emma Sawyer 13
Jane Elizabeth Sawyer 9
Hannah Sawyer 5
Paul Matthai 65 LODGER BORN POLAND

1881 England Census
about Job Sawyer
Name: Job Sawyer
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Sawyer
Gender: Male
Where born: Berkshire, England

Civil parish: St Marys Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Hope Place
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Gardiner (N D)

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 57
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 266
Folio: 111
Page Number: 34
Household Members: Name Age
Job Sawyer 60
Jane Sawyer 54
Charles Sawyer 28
Hannah Sawyer 16

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Job Sawyer
Name: Job Sawyer
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Date of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1882
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: London City
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 29

Hi Mel i am looking for information on Job and Charles jr Who did Job and Charles marry Thank you for the information and your time THANK YOU SANDY

Sandy if you look further up I have already put Job's marriage up as it was in Islington to Jane Williams.

It is on my first post on your thread at 14.28pm.

On the 1851 census I put up Job is living with his brother Joseph and his wife. He then marries in Islington.

Sorry Mel grandsons have just got here for the weekend and the 2 year old think he is in charge Sorry Sandy

My Sayer family are from the Norfolk area. It was about 1786 that Thomas Sawer was born, however most of his children were registered as Sayer and since then they have been called Sayer. So maybe the same thing has happened on your family.

Edit

I see that you have the Brown and Sawyer family. My Sayer married a Brown in Mobberley Cheshire 1919 are they related to yours. :-S

HI Ollietheowl
So far my Brown family are from Berksher Oxfordshire and London and my Sawyer family are from Berkshire
Sandy