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Which birth cert did you buy? I can see at least two possibles (she could have been born late 1883)

I have traced the family back on the census The rest of the family in 1891:

Richard Graham 62
Mary A Graham 45
Thomas Graham 13
Mary Graham 7
Susan Lute 21
Thomas Lute 21
Thomas Lute 2/12

The same family in 1881:

1881 England Census
about Thomas Graham
Name: Thomas Graham
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard Graham
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Graham
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchestr, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 8 Lower Brook St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Market Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3997
Folio: 15
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Graham 52
Mary Ann Graham 40
Samuel Graham 16
Susan Graham 14
Elizabeth Graham 11
Thomas Graham 4
Mary Endle 66 Mother in law



1871 England Census
about Samuel Graham
Name: Samuel Graham
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richd Graham
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Graham
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: St John
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Deansgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 109
Piece: 4038
Folio: 137
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Richd Graham 43
Mary Ann Graham 40
Mary Jane Graham 20
Ellen Graham 18
Samuel Graham 6
Susan Graham 5
Sarah Graham

I can't yet find them in 1861 or a marriage between and Endle and a Graham.

The baby on the 1901 is listed directly below Mary - and her name is Margaret

Mary's occupation is Housemaid - domestic. Does that tally with the marriage cert?

How do you know you have the right birth cert?
Also, who are the witnesses - might they be family members?
Jan

So the birth was illegitimate, and the father was probably invented for the look of things when she married - unless you have certs for two different people

Who did she marry? When did she marry? How old was she?
What else did she say about her 'father'?

Which of her children is your proven direct line?

When did Mary die?

I have marraige cert her dads name is Richard sorry forgot to write that above but I sent off for birth cert and mother is down as Mary Jane Graham and no maiden name plus no father.

Also if it is my great grandma then she had 3 kids that I know of however in the 1901 census in the place she lived the chorlton union workhouse there is a 1 month old baby of same surname??? No sign of this baby after this though.

Danny

it is possible
did she marry, her fathers name would be on the certificate.
Have you found her birth
Maddie

I am trying to track down my great grandmothers details and I am wondering if the two people below are the same:

Any help would be greatly appreciated;

1901 CENSUS

Name: Mary Graham
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Withington
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:


Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Didsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: Chorlton Union Workhouse
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 3673
Folio: 157
Page Number: 18

1891 CENSUS

Name: Mary Graham
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard Graham
Mother's Name: Mary A Graham
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Chorlton on Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:


Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Piece: 3182
Folio: 133
Page Number

Thanks to anyone who can help

Danny