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Lexie & Sylvia,

I have also been trying to research Hephzibah (my g/g/grandmother) & have come to a halt after noting her father's name as John on her marriage cert.
I will also be trying to investigate the Lonsdale trail & the alternative parental names in the next few days so will report on anything that I come up with.

Sorry I can't be very helpful just yet.

Claire

Thank you Sylvia for your reply.As you can see i am still on the trail of Phillis Austwick.I went for the birth certificate for James Herbert Austwick and there wasnt one so i asked for Herbert Austwick.It says Herbert Austwick b. 1857 Wakefield mother Phillis Austwick living Westgate Common Alverthorpe.On his first marriage to Annice Land/Laud he is James Herbert and on his second marriage he is Herbert so it looks like he was born in Wakefield .I am going down the Lonsdale route now to see if that comes up with anything.I traced Sarah Ann Ivason and Clara Ivason daughters of Phillis and Thomas .I even emailed the grandson of Clara and he had never heard of a Sarah Ann in 1891 they are living on the same St as each other. and so is Thomas Ivason[Phillis is dead]Thank you again for your help.

George Lonsdale died in 1886.


West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 about George Lonsdale

Name: George Lonsdale
Birth Year: abt 1842
Parish: South Ossett, Christ Church
Burial Date: 26 Jan 1886
Burial Age: 44






Henry's name is Austick on the 1901 and 1911 censuses. The 1911 Census was of course filled out by him ....... although he did sign as Henry Austwick !




sylvia

I wonder if John on the marriage certificate was just a mistake on Hepzibah's part????


That is not unknown!


In 1881, the Lonsdales ' street address is Happy Land, Ossett cum Gawthorpe

In 1871, it is Benton Street, Ossett with Gawthorpe



I cannot find any other Hepzibah than this one with father George




sylvia

but the only baptism for a Hepzibah is this one

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Hephzibah Lonsdale

Name: Hephzibah Lonsdale
Parish: Horbury, St Peter and St Leonard
Baptism Date: 2 Oct 1864
Father's Name: George Lonsdale
Mother's Name: Marida Lonsdale


from image:-

Address:- Horbury
Father occupation:- Clothier

Mother's name is LUCINDA




sylvia

There is certainly something a little strange!


West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935 about Hephzibah Lonsdale

Name: Hephzibah Lonsdale
Birth Year: abt 1864
Age: 19
Marriage or Bann Date: 16 Apr 1883
Parish: Normanton, All Saints
Father's Name: John Lonsdale
Spouse's Name: Henry Hostick
Spouse's Father's Name: James Hostick


from image:-

Henry Hostick or Austick
Age:- 21
Bachelor
Occupation:- Labourer
Address:- 45 Bensons Lane
Father name and occupation:- James Hostick or Austick, Mechanic

Hepzibah
Age:- 19
Spinster
no occupation shown
Address:- Bensons Lane
Father occupation:- Mill Hand

Witnesses:- James Herbert Austick and Annie Austick



It is very clearly AUSTICK, not Austwick




sylvia

This gives an idea of when she was born

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Hephzibah Austwick

Name: Hephzibah Austwick
Birth Date: abt 1865
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1924
Age at Death: 59
Registration district: Doncaster
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 641



????? Hepzibah in 1891????


1891 Census

Name: Henry Austwick
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eppie Austwick
Gender: Male
Where born: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Wakefield
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Wakefield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Wakefield

Henry Austwick 29 Fireman
Eppie Austwick 30 b.ca 1861, Normanton, Yorkshire
George Austwick 2
Thomas Austwick 8
Lewis Austwick 9/12

Address:- 68 Providence Street



and in 1881, with her family??

This IS the only Hep* Lonsdale that shows on ancestry


1881 Census

Name: Ophzibah Lonsdale
[Hephzibah Lonsdale]
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Lonsdale
Mother's Name: Lucinda Lonsdale
Gender: Female
Where born: Ossett, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Ossett cum Gawthorpe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Happy Land

Occupation: Rag Sorter

Registration district: Dewsbury

George Lonsdale 39
Lucinda Lonsdale 39
Henry Lonsdale 18
Ophzibah Lonsdale 16
Eliza Lonsdale 15
Emma Lonsdale 11
Annie Lonsdale 7



sylvia

I am looking for the parents and siblings of Hephzibah Lonsdale who married Henry Austwick in 1883 Wakefield .I believe her father could be a John Lonsdale.Thank you

Thank you Sylvia I will take on board everything i have been sent.I think the fact that on all the census that i have seen it is always stated that Phillis James and Herbert are all born in Salop Notts.and this is whats confusing me.I will have a go at the Pollard route and see if anything turns up.Thank you all once again your help is very much appreciated.

Sorry, Lexie


but I think we HAVE found the correct Phillis/Phyllis

1. Allotment posted that James Henry Austwick was baptised in Salop ..............I think that was a mistake for James Herbert

2. I posted that Sarah Austwick married Joseph Pollard in 1837 ...... which accounts for Phillis living with Sarah and Joseph Pollard in 1841

The 1841 does NOT show relationships between members of a household, so there is no indication of the connection between Sarah and/or Joseph ...................... but it is a very good bet that the Austwick children are stepchildren of Joseph's.

3. People moved for work .......... just as they do now.

4. There are not very many Phillis Austwick's on ancestry

5. Most of our ancestors were illiterate, and many did not know where they had been born, and could not correct it if the enumerator wrote it down wrongly.


Please do NOT be too quick and dismiss everything that has been found.





sylvia

Thank you all for your help but i dont think these are the Phillis i am looking for.The Phillis Austwik i am searching for was B.Salop Nottinghamshire 1832/35.Both her sons James Herbert and Henry were also B.Salop Notts.Allotment sent the information that James Herbert was Baptised 19thAug 1855 Salop Notts.How they came to be inWakefield is a mystery.Andrew pointed me in the right direction when he found that Sarah Ann Iveson had married a James Grogan.I followed this up and have even emailed his grandson but he only knows about his grandfathers side.Back to the drawing board.Thank you all very much.If you get this twice i appologise

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Clara Iveson

Name: Clara Iveson
Parish: Wakefield, Holy Trinity
Baptism Date: 6 Aug 1873
Father's Name: Thomas Iveson
Mother's Name: Lillis Iveson

from image:-
Address:- Kirkgate
Father occupation:- Labourer



On the image, it looks like Fillis or Pillis :-)




sylvia

The reason for Phillis being with the Pollards in 1841 ???????????????????


West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935 about Sarah Austwick

Name: Sarah Austwick
Age: Full Age
Marriage or Bann Date: 3 Aug 1837
Parish: Ackworth, St Cuthbert
Father's Name: Thomas Austwick
Spouse's Name: Joseph Pollard
Spouse's Father's Name: Joshua Pollard


from image:-

Joseph
Of Full Age
Widower
Occupation:- Worsted Manufacturer
Address:- Ackworth
Father occupation:- Worsted Manufacturer

Sarah
Of Full Age
Spinster
no occupation shown
Address:- Ackworth
Father occupation:- Labourer

Witnesses:- Richard Hepworth and Charlotte Howitte




sylvia

???

County West Riding YKS
Place Wakefield-Alverthorpe
Church St. Paul
RegisterNumber 2353
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 16 Jun 1860
Forename Sarah Ann
Sex F
FatherForename
MotherForename Phyllis
FatherSurname
MotherSurname ASTWICK
Abode Ossett Road
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 6745

?????????????????????


West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Sarah Ann Astwick

Name: Sarah Ann Astwick
Parish: Alverthorpe, St Paul
Baptism Date: 16 Jun 1860
Father's Name: Phyllis Astwick
Mother's Name: Phyllis Astwick

from image:-

Address:- Ofsett (??sp) Road




sylvia

???????????????????????


West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Phillis Austwick

Name: Phillis Austwick
Parish: Ackworth, St Cuthbert
Baptism Date: 2 Jun 1833
Father's Name: Austwick
Mother's Name: Sarah Austwick


from image:-

Abode:- Ackworth (???sp)

Bastard written on Register entry




sylvia

Thank you for your reply.I will give this a go and see if she is with the Pollard family on another census.

Thank you for your reply.I will give this a go and see if she is with the Pollard family on another census.

1841

Phillis Austwick
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Female
Civil parish: Pontefract
Hundred: Osgoldcross (Upper Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Pontefract
Sub-registration district: Pontefract
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1310
Book: 15
Folio: 5
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Pollard 35
Sarah Pollard 25
Phillis Austwick 9 not born county
Frances Austwick 7 not born county

Thank you all for your replys.I will chase up information for Sarah and hope i can find information about Phillis before her reatonship with Thomas Iveson