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Chris in Sussex
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3 Feb 2012 08:21 |
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Going back to AnnCardiff's find...
Livermore England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1900 christening: 16 Feb 1650 Essex,? England parents: Stephen Livermore name: Livermore event: Christening event date: 16 Feb 1650 event place: Essex, England gender: Female father: Stephen Livermore digital folder number: 4298363
This is from the 'Parish register transcripts, 1646-1724 Parish Church of Wethersfield (Essex)
So I had a look at the registers, just clicking around, and there is alot of activity for the surname Livermore however the registers are in a terrible state :-( They have been badly damaged with bits of pages missing and/or faded.
So it is possible that if Stephen was baptised or married at Wethersfield the details may not be found......So sorry to be the bearer of possible bad news.
Wethersfield to Felstead is 6.7 miles so maybe Mary lived between them and they married there?? Fingers crossed.
But, of course, the Wethersfield Livermores may have nothing to do with your Livermores :-(
Have you thought of looking at other sources? From my 'crib sheet' records that you could look for at this period...
Deeds (from 11c) Feet of Fines (from late 12c to early 19c) Manor Court Rolls (from 13c) Inquisition Post Mortem (from early 13c to early 17c) Lay Subsidies (from early 13c to end of 17c) Quarter Sessions (from mid/late 14c) Probates (from mid/late 14c) Chancery Proceedings (from late 14c to late 19c) Visitations (from 16c to early 17c) Apprentices and Freemen (from 16c) School and University Registers (from 16c) Marriage Licences (from 16c) Parish Registers (from early/mid 16c) Bishops Transcripts (from late 16c to mid/late 19c) Non Conformist Records (from 17c) Jewish Records (from 17c) Quaker Records (from mid 17c) Poor Law (from mid 17c to early/mid 19c) Roman Catholic Records (from mid/late 17c)
Some obviously won't apply to your research but I just copy and pasted the relevant period! It would be worth checking the Essex RO online catalogue (SEAX) to see what they hold.
Good luck Chris
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Chris in Sussex
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3 Feb 2012 07:35 |
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Interesting and proves why, if possible, one should look at the actual register entry....
AnnCardiff's find of Abraham Christening: 30 SEP 1716 Felstead, Essex, England
The register actual gives...
Abraham son of Abraham Livermore and Mary his wife. Bap. 7th Bor. 30th
So looking at the entries it is clear that he was acually born on the 30th September and Baptised on the 7th October.
I can see why the transcriber was confused!
Doesn't help with search for Stephen and Mary though, sorry.
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I have just checked the burial entry for Stephen in 1721 and it just states
30 December 1721 Stephen Livermore was buried. As the other entries state if it was a son/daughter then I think it is safe to say he was an adult.
Do you have this?..... On the same page
23 February 1722 An infant of the widow Livermores was buried.
There is no baptism for this infant in the register. How sad if it is Mary losing both husband and new born within a couple of months. Chris
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AnnCardiff
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2 Feb 2012 21:19 |
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Abraham Livermore Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 30 SEP 1716 Felstead, Essex, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Stephen Livermore Family Mother: Mary
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AnnCardiff
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2 Feb 2012 21:16 |
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name: Abraham Livermore gender: Male birth: ABT 1713 All Saints Paris,Maldon,Essex,England death: 1765 burial: 6 DEC 1765 All Saints Paris,Maldon,Essex,England AFN: 2Q6T-PX2
Marriages (1) spouse: Sarah Thredgold (AFN: 2Q6T-TKG ) marriage: 25 OCT 1738 All Saints Paris,Maldon,Essex,England Hide children (6) child 1: Susanna Livermore (AFN: 2Q6T-XBJ ) gender: Female death: 6 OCT 1741 child 2: Sarah Livermore (AFN: 2Q6V-1B1 ) gender: Female burial: 13 OCT 1765 child 3: Mary Livermore (AFN: 2Q6V-3VN ) gender: Female child 4: Mary Livermore (AFN: 2Q6V-8M3 ) gender: Female child 5: Abraham Livermore (AFN: 2Q6V-63F ) gender: Male child 6: Stephen Livermore (AFN: 2Q6S-SLC ) gender: Male birth: JUL 1748 All Saints Paris,Maldon,Essex,England
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AnnCardiff
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2 Feb 2012 21:15 |
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name: Stephen Livermore gender: Male birth: JUL 1748 All Saints Paris,Maldon,Essex,England christening: JUL 1748 All Saints Paris,Maldon,Essex,England burial: 20 APR 1806 All Saints Paris,Maldon,Essex,England AFN: 2Q6S-SLC
Parents father: Abraham Livermore (AFN: 2Q6T-PX2 ) mother: Sarah Thredgold (AFN: 2Q6T-TKG )
Marriages (1) spouse: Sarah Platt (AFN: 2Q6S-W2K ) Hide children (10) child 1: John Livermore (AFN: 2Q6T-GPD ) gender: Male child 2: Thomas Platt Livermore (AFN: 2Q6T-DK7 ) gender: Male death: 1847 child 3: Elizabeth Livermore (AFN: 2Q6T-BQW ) gender: Female birth: 21 SEP 1783 St Peters Parish,Maldon,Essex,England child 4: Abraham Livermore (AFN: 2Q6G-S1G ) gender: Male birth: ABT 1768 Maldon,Essex,England death: 7 OCT 1841 Maldon,Essex,England child 5: Rachel Livermore (AFN: 2Q6T-89V ) gender: Female birth: 15 APR 1781 Chelmsford,Essex,England child 6: Sarah Livermore (AFN: 2Q6T-19N ) gender: Female birth: 22 OCT 1773 Chelmsford,Essex,England child 7: Stephen Livermore (AFN: 2Q6T-66W ) gender: Male birth: 25 AUG 1778 Chelmsford,Essex,England death: BEF 1851 child 8: Hannah Livermore (AFN: 2Q6T-M14 ) gender: Female child 9: Mary Ann Livermore (AFN: 2Q6T-HPK ) gender: Female child 10: Livermore (AFN: 2Q6T-2FN ) gender: Female birth: 8 OCT 1775 Chelmsford,Essex,England burial: 6 OCT 1782
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2 Feb 2012 21:14 |
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name: Abraham Livermore gender: Male birth: ABT 1768 Maldon,Essex,England christening: 14 APR 1771 Chelmsford,Essex,England death: 7 OCT 1841 Maldon,Essex,England AFN: 2Q6G-S1G
Parents father: Stephen Livermore (AFN: 2Q6S-SLC ) mother: Sarah Platt (AFN: 2Q6S-W2K )
Marriages (2) spouse: Susan (Susanna) Nicholls (AFN: 2Q6G-WK9 ) marriage: 4 APR 1802 All Saints Paris,Maldon,Essex,England Hide children (6) child 1: Susanna Livermore (AFN: 2Q6R-SF6 ) gender: Female birth: Maldon,Essex,England burial: 21 NOV 1807 child 2: Stephen Livermore (AFN: 2Q6R-VMR ) gender: Male birth: Maldon,Essex,England child 3: Abraham Livermore (AFN: 2Q6R-LDX ) gender: Male birth: Maldon,Essex,England child 4: John Platt Livermore (AFN: 2Q6R-PSX ) gender: Male birth: Maldon,Essex,England child 5: Frances Livermore (AFN: 2Q6S-2P6 ) gender: Female birth: Maldon,Essex,England death: 1866 child 6: John Livermore (AFN: 2Q6F-KDD ) gender: Male birth: 6 JAN 1812 Maldon,Essex,England death: 30 JUL 1881 Kentish Town,Middlesex,England burial: JUL 1881 St. Pancras Ceme,Finchley,London,Middlesex spouse: Mary Andrews (AFN: 2Q6R-JS3 ) marriage: 21 JAN 1793 All Saints,Maldon,Essex,England
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AnnCardiff
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2 Feb 2012 21:11 |
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name: Abraham /Livermore/ gender: Male birth: 1713 Malden,Essex,England death: 6 Dec 1765 Malden,Essex,England
Marriages (1) spouse: Sarah /Thredgold/ marriage: 25 Oct 1738 Malden,Essex,England Hide children (5) child 1: Sarah /Livermore/ gender: Female birth: 1750 Malden,Essex,England death: 13 Oct 1765 Malden,Essex.England child 2: Susanna /Livermore/ gender: Female death: 6 Oct 1741 child 3: Stephen /Livermore/ gender: Male birth: Jul 1748 Malden,Essex,England death: 20 Apr 1806 Malden,Essex,England child 4: Abrahma /Livermore/ gender: Male child 5: Mary /Livermore/ gender: Female
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AnnCardiff
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2 Feb 2012 21:06 |
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name: Stephen /Livermore/ gender: Male birth: Jul 1748 Malden,Essex,England christening: Jul 1748 Malden,Essex,England death: 20 Apr 1806 Malden,Essex,England
Parents father: Abraham /Livermore/ mother: Sarah /Thredgold/
Marriages (1) spouse: Sarah /Livermore/ marriage: ABT 1781 Malden,Essex,England Hide children (6) child 1: John /Livermore/ gender: Male child 2: Elizabeth /Livermore/ gender: Female child 3: Mary Ann /Livermore/ gender: Female child 4: Thomas Platt /Livermore/ gender: Male child 5: Hannah /Livermore/ gender: Female child 6: Abraham /Livermore/ gender: Male death: 7 Oct 1841 Malden,Essex,England
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2 Feb 2012 21:05 |
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name: Abraham /Livermore/ gender: Male christening: 14 Feb 1771 Malden,Essex,England death: 7 Oct 1841 Malden,Essex,England
Parents father: Stephen /Livermore/ mother: Sarah /Livermore/
Marriages (2) spouse: Mary /Andrews/ marriage: 21 Jan 1793 Malden,Essex,England Hide children (4) child 1: Sarah /Livermore/ gender: Female birth: 21 Aug 1794 Malden,Essex,England child 2: Elizabeth or Betty /Livermore/ gender: Female birth: 22 Mar 1795 Malden,Essex,England death: 1864 child 3: John /Livermore/ gender: Male birth: 15 Apr 1797 Malden,Essex,England burial: 31 Mar 1799 Malden,Essex,England child 4: Abraham /Livermore/ gender: Male birth: 25 Jun 1796 Malden,Essex,England death: 13 Nov 1796 Malden,Essex,England spouse: Susanna /Nicholls/ marriage: 4 Apr 1802 Malden,Essex.England Hide children (1) child 1: John Stephen /Livermore/ gender: Male birth: 6 Jan 1812 Malden,Essex.England death: 30 Jul 1881 Kentish Town,Middlesex,England
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AnnCardiff
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2 Feb 2012 20:34 |
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message from poster
This is how I got back to Stephen Livermore.........
Stephen Livermore's son was Abraham Livermore, born Felsted, Essex 1716
Abraham Livermore's son was Stephen Livermore, born Maldon, Essex 1748.
Stephen Livermore's son was Abraham Livermore, born Chelmsford, Essex 1771.
Abraham Livermore's son was John Livermore, born Maldon 1812.
John Livermore's son was James Livermore, born Maldon 1856.
James Livermore's son was Frederick Livermore, born Maldon 1880.
Frederick Livermore's son was Claude Livermore, born Braintree, Essex 1915.
Claude Livermore's son was ME - Clive Livermore, born Braintree 1948.
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AnnCardiff
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2 Feb 2012 17:37 |
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presumably you have the names of Stephen's children? cn you give us what you have and how you got back to him please
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2 Feb 2012 17:21 |
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Mary Livermore England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1900 burial: Sep 1740 Essex,? England name: Mary Livermore event: Burial event date: Sep 1740 event place: Essex, England digital folder number: 4298449
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AnnCardiff
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2 Feb 2012 17:20 |
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just fishing around here
Livermore England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1900 christening: 16 Feb 1650 Essex,? England parents: Stephen Livermore
name: Livermore event: Christening event date: 16 Feb 1650 event place: Essex, England gender: Female father: Stephen Livermore digital folder number: 4298363
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Chris in Sussex
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2 Feb 2012 17:08 |
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AnnCardiff's find for 1688 is not in the Felstead register.
Chris
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AnnCardiff
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2 Feb 2012 16:58 |
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Stephen Livermore Pedigree Male Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: About 1688 Of, Felstead, Essex, England
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2 Feb 2012 15:38 |
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On Familysearch there´s a submitted record for Stephen Livermore born abt 1788 Felstead Essex. (submitted by a researcher, not from parish records.) You could try the Essex records site (SEAX). Used to be free to search, but I think it´s recently become pay per view. Have the same problem myself with early Essex records.They are not well recorded.
*** Sorry. The date should read 1688 not 1788.
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Clive
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2 Feb 2012 15:11 |
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My 6x great grandfather Stephen Livermore was buried in Felsted, Essex on 30th December 1721. His wife's name was Mary. I can't find Mary's family name or when/where either Stephen or Mary were born.
Can anyone help please?
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