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JoyLouise
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30 Jan 2012 10:59 |
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I wonder whether anyone can help me find James's parent(s), please?
James was born in 1866 at Mayland (Maldon District), Essex. I found him in Census information living with his grandparents, James and Sarah, in 1871 (when he is incorrectly listed as son) and in 1881 when he is correctly listed as grandson. He is married by 1891.
I have tried to find a baptism for him to see whether he has one or two parents named at the time of baptism but I have been unsuccessful.
I'd appreciate any help as people I've contacted do not have conclusive proof of his parentage and I'd like to enter him onto my family tree correctly.
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KathleenBell
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30 Jan 2012 11:04 |
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Is this his birth (the certificate will name his parents):-
Name: LINGE, James Registration District: Maldon County: Essex Year of Registration: 1866 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume No: 4A Page No: 223
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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30 Jan 2012 11:12 |
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1871 England Census about James Linge Name: James Linge Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Linge Mother's name: Sarah Linge Gender: Male Where born: Mayland, Essex, England Civil parish: Mayland Ecclesiastical parish: Dengie County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: Maldon Sub-registration district: Southminster ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 9 Piece: 1671 Folio: 72 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age James Linge 65 Sarah Linge 56 William Linge 19 James Linge 5 Arther William Linge 4 Alfred Linge 3 1881 England Census about James Linge Name: James Linge Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Mayland, Essex, England Civil parish: Mayland County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: Dring Farm
Occupation: Ag Lab Registration district: Maldon Sub-registration district: Southminster ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1773 Folio: 76 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age James Linge 76 Sarah Linge 66 James Linge 15 Grandson******
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JoyLouise
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30 Jan 2012 11:12 |
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Thanks, Kath, that's as far as I got so I began searching for a baptism to no avail, I'm afraid.
Can anyone with access to Essex records (Mayland/Maldon) shed any light here, please?
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KathleenBell
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30 Jan 2012 11:14 |
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Is it possible that his mother remarried? There is this couple in the Maldon registration district on the 1871 census:-
EVERITT, David Head M 36 1835 Essex EVERITT, Sarah Wife F 31 1840 Essex LING, Rhoda Daughter F 6 1865 Essex EVERITT, Martha Daughter F 2 1869 Essex EVERITT, Emm J F 0 1871 Essex
Address: On Tyle Hall Farm, Latchingdon
Piece:1673 Folio: 46 Page: 9 Registration District: Maldon
This is their marriage:-
Name: EVERETT, David Registration District: Maldon County: Essex Year of Registration: 1868 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume No: 4A Page No: 279
On the same page is Sarah Ling. Spelling often changes from record to record.
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JoyLouise
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30 Jan 2012 11:17 |
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Thanks, Mel.
I got that too. Arthur and Alfred are living with their mother in a later census but James is still with his grandparents and listed as grandson in 1881 so I've found no indication as to who his parent(s) are.
I'm guessing that because his name is Linge he's the son of one of James and Sarah's daughters only because I would think any other mother would have kept her son with her (and/or her parents) and not handed him over to the boy's father's parents.
I could be wrong so I'll keep searching to get the right info.
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JoyLouise
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30 Jan 2012 11:20 |
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Not found that Kathleen.
James's (1866) grandparents, James and Sarah, had a good number of children - a few girls and a few boys (at least two sets of twins among them) - so James could be the son of any one of them I suppose. I'm still banking on his mother being a Linge, though.
I'm carrying on my search before I add James (1866) to my tree.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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30 Jan 2012 11:21 |
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1851 England Census about James Linge Name: James Linge Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Linge Gender: M (Male) Where born: Mayland, Essex, England Civil parish: Mayland County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Maldon Sub-registration district: Southminster ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 9 Piece: 1778 Folio: 87 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age James Linge 44 Sarah Linge 35 James Linge 7 Sarah Linge 7 John Linge 3 Ann Linge 3 William Linge 42
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KathleenBell
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30 Jan 2012 11:24 |
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There is this couple on the 1861 census in Maldon registration district:-
LING, Charles Lodger Married M 33 1828 Farm Labourer Shirley Essex LING, Sarah Wife Married F 22 1839 Latchingdon Essex
Address: Althorn Hall..., Althorn Road
Piece: 1089 Folio: 41 Page:10 Registration District: Maldon
There are also a couple of deaths of a Charles Ling between 1861 and 1871 in the same registration district.
Could James and Sarah have had a son called Charles?
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Chris in Sussex
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30 Jan 2012 11:26 |
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He was 'Baseborn'
Baptism James Lynge (note spelling) 29 July 1866 Noted as Baseborn St Barnabus Mayland Mother: Susan Residing Mayland
Same day Arthur Lynge Noted as Baseborn Mother: Susan
Edit.....No baptism for Alfred as far as I can see.
Chris
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JoyLouise
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30 Jan 2012 11:28 |
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No, Kath. James married a Louisa English who already had a son, Charles English - he's listed as wife's son on one of the censuses.
James and Louisa don't appear to have had any children of their own who lived.
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KathleenBell
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30 Jan 2012 11:30 |
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Chris's find rules out the family that I found.
I think your best bet would be to buy the birth certificate.
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JoyLouise
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30 Jan 2012 11:34 |
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Thank you Chris. This appears to be my James Linge. This is the second member of the family I believe to have the name spelled Lynge.
I think Sarah Lynge b 1871 Q3 at Steeple, Essex (again, Maldon District) was my grandfather's sister - the daughter of John and Sarah Linge.
I've searched for my Sarah and found a few but have managed to account for them so if you can help me verify what I believe about Sarah Lynge I'd be grateful.
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Jan 2012 11:36 |
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http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/EssexAncestors.asp
(above now available for Essex, pay to view)
Chris :)
edits (might not have got to M Parishes yet, as not been online long!)
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KathleenBell
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30 Jan 2012 11:39 |
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The spelling of the name could change every time it is written down, depending on who was doing the writing. Most people at that time were illiterate so wouldn't be able to check that the name was spelled correctly.
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Chris in Sussex
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30 Jan 2012 11:48 |
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Essex Ancestors online only has Steeple baptisms to 1853.
However it notes there are Bishops Transcripts of baptisms to 1877 (with many gaps) available at the Essex Record Office.
Chris
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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30 Jan 2012 11:57 |
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Susannah Linge is the oldest child of James and Sarah. They married in 1834
Here she is on the 1861 census as a Cook Unmarried.
1861 England Census about Susan A Linge Name: Susan A Linge Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Essex, England Civil parish: Tottenham County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Tottenham ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 92 Piece: 794 Folio: 55 Page Number: 18 and the 1851 census.
1851 England Census about S Linge Name: S Linge Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Servant Gender: F (Female) Where born: Maryland, Essex, England [Mayland, Essex] Civil parish: South Fambridge County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Rochford Sub-registration district: Rayleigh ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Piece: 1777 Folio: 59 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Jas Andrews 33 Susan Andrews 33 Eliza Andrews 7 Jas Carter 30 Isac Spooner 31 Rich King 22 S Linge 17 Servant************ Chas Smith 63 James married Sarah Willis 30th Sept 1834 Steeple Essex.
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JoyLouise
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30 Jan 2012 14:00 |
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Thank you for the info.
I think I can get info from the Transcripts.
The Sarah on the 1851 Census is James's twin sister; children of James and Sarah nee Willis). She is the aunt of whom I believe to be my Sarah Linge (Lynge) born 1871.
My own great-grandfather, John Linge had a twin sister, Ann. He married another Sarah whose extended family also had twins!
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