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THE ELUSIVE CROCKERS !

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Robin

Robin Report 19 Jan 2012 11:41

Throwing in the towel having spent weeks tracking down my Devon Crockers ! CAN ANYONE HELP!
In brief: John & Anne(nee Clarke) CROCKER of Huxham Devon (near Exeter) had 6 children all born/reg. HUXHAM. Elizabeth 1834,John 1837,Sarah-Anne 1841,William 1843,Mary-Jane 1845 and Emma 1850.
I can account for the lifestories of all bar the Eldest two ELIZABETH and JOHN. The last record for Elizabeth was 1861 census an unmarried cook/servant age 26 in Exeter. The last record for John 1851 Census a Paper Maker in Huxham age14.
Parents John and Anne died 1851 Huxham and 1876 Exeter respectively.

Numerous possibilities for these two from early deaths to possible marriages but nothing that will cross reference!

Any help very much appreciated.
:-(

Andrew

Andrew Report 19 Jan 2012 11:48

John 1861?

1861 England Census
about John Crooker
Name: John Crooker
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Huxham, Devon, England

Civil parish: Silverton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Tiverton
Sub-registration district: Silverton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Piece: 1476
Folio: 55
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
John Gale 59
Mary F Gale 64
Jane M Gale 33
>>>>John Crooker 24


Andy

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jan 2012 12:07

problem is theres several marriages from 1861 in the Devon area for an Elizabeth.

This one I picked out because its in her home reg district.
Name: CROCKER, Elizabeth
Registration District: St. Thomas
County: Devon
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 5B
Page Nos 116

spouse either
IRELAND, Edward

or
CORNISH, Augustus

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Jan 2012 12:09

That Elizabeth above married Cornish.
Unfortunately it doesn't give her DOB or parents.
You would need the deatils from the certificate.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


ELIZABETH CROCKER
Marriages:
Spouse: AUGUSTUS CORNISH
Marriage: 08 JUN 1869 Topsham, Devon, England


-------------------------

Just to rule out a couple ...

The Elizabeth Crocker who married Mr Shapland was born 1809
and the one marrying Mr. Crosby was born 1844 so it's neither of those.

Robin

Robin Report 19 Jan 2012 12:14

Thanks Andy, I use FMP a lot and that one doesn't appear ! Guess I might need to cross ref. Ancestry and FMP for other missings!

Thanks Shirly, yes that is one of the possible marriages I mentioned, problem is nothing in the census to follow through on a marriage to either Cornish or Ireland ! I've also followed through on other possible time related marriages , nothing !

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Jan 2012 12:16

>
and the only who married H Hodges in Bristol in 1867 had a father James ... so not her either !


You might be better using freebmd and familysearch

Andrew

Andrew Report 19 Jan 2012 12:17

Here is augustus Cornish. Wrong age for Elizabeth

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Comish
Name: Elizabeth Comish
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Augustus Comish
Gender: Female
Where born: Halberton, Devon, England
Civil parish: Topsham
Town: Topsham
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: St Thomas
Sub-registration district: Topsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 30
Piece: 2051
Folio: 62
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Augustus Comish 26
Elizabeth Comish 29


Andy

Robin

Robin Report 19 Jan 2012 12:18

Thanks Mike, where did you find the record ? + there are no records in cencus years to follow for an Elizabeth Cornish though ?

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Jan 2012 12:20

the info was on
http://www.familysearch.org/

for parish registers ( though not complete)

Andrew

Andrew Report 19 Jan 2012 12:21

Have you consdered this entry? Can't find marriage atm

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Monkley
Name: Elizabeth Monkley
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Monkley
Gender: Female
Where born: Haxham, Devon, England
Civil parish: Stoke Cannon
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: St Thomas
Sub-registration district: Heavitree
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 9
Piece: 2053
Folio: 80
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
William Monkley 35
>>>>Elizabeth Monkley 33
Frank Monkley 8
William George Monkley 4
Fredrick Monkley 2


EDIT No not that one


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1861 (>99%)
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BERRY Elizabeth St Thomas 5b 91
Munkley William St. Thomas 5b 91



Andy

Choccy

Choccy Report 19 Jan 2012 12:35



??


Deaths Sep 1863 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CROCKER Elizabeth Exeter 5b 62

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Jan 2012 12:39


Also ?????

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deaths Jun 1858
Crocker John - Exeter 5b 77

Robin

Robin Report 19 Jan 2012 12:40

Thanks Andy, 1881 census states mother as Berry ! damn, just started to get excited too !

Yes ,did consider the 1863 death, can't be sure though!

Have to nip out for an hour, thanks everyone for your help so far

Rob.

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Jan 2012 12:59

There are 2 people with your John Crocker in their tree.

Have you looked in SEARCH TREES to contact these people ?

Robin

Robin Report 19 Jan 2012 13:47

Thanks Mike, have messaged them, hope something turns up!
The 1858 death for John probably not as he was in the 1861 Census.

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Jan 2012 13:50

That contradicts your opening statement

"The last record for John 1851 Census a Paper Maker in Huxham age14."

Barbara

Barbara Report 19 Jan 2012 13:51

There are quite a few with same birth year as John born Devon but living somerset, wales, london. Any possibility he didn't stay in the area?

Robin

Robin Report 19 Jan 2012 14:54

Mike, further back thethread Andrew found John as a mis spelt Crooker, 1861, when you look at the original it is clearly Crocker ,servant to a Miller, born Huxham. Pretty sure it's our John. Just need to find him later or maybe he did die young, if so you would assume close to home!