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Hello
I've looked for Edward in the 1881 and 1891 censuses on FindMyPast,Ancestry and FamilySearch without any luck.
Can any of you clever people help me?

Edward Micklefield Hopton b. 1851 Goole Yorkshire
m. 1876 either Mary Wells or Jane Hobson

1861,1871 in Rothwell Yorkshire and then Hook Yorkshire with
Henry Hopton and Mary Hopton.

He might be an inmate in the workhouse in 1891in Chorlton Union Workhouse but there he's a cabdriver where he was a stoker in 1871.

Any suggestions please?

Heatherg

he died in 1897
Name: Edward Micklefield Hopton
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1897
Age at Death: 46
Registration district: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 29

Yes Shirley I found his death but what did he do between 1871 and 1897?
I suppose he could have been on a boat like his brother Albert Henry Hopton.

heatherg

the death cert informant may be family

The Edward Hopton in 1861, Rothwell, is born Leeds - which is definitely not Goole. Or is there another census entry?

Added:
Yes, Leeds:
Births Dec 1851
HOPTON Edward Micklefield Leeds 23 521

If he died in Wakefield, have you found the rest of his family living there in 1901?
What children did he have?
Thanks

Burial Record

Name: Edward Micklefield Hopton
Birth Year: abt 1851
Parish: Stanley, St Peter
Burial Date: 4 Jun 1897
Burial Age: 46
Abode: Asylum

If he died in an asylum in 1897 he may have been in one in 1891, just under his initials, not his surname.

I haven't been able to find his wife in 1891 and I haven't sent for the death cert.'Ive cut down on those since the price went up!

I don't know if he died in the asylum,I'm not sure that is him in the asylum.

He is the only one in the family born in Leeds,I had missed that.

Heatherg

Is this the one you think MIGHT be him in 1891??

1891 Census

Name: Edward Hopton
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Withington
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Didsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: Chorlton Union Workhouse (1)

Married, Cab Driver (Groom added later)



sylvia

I'm looking for him under his initials, and I found an M E H ....... which is not him (SHE is a housewife :-) ) ....... but the asylum where she was looks as though it might be the one where he did die

West Riding Lunatic Asylum, Stanley nr Wakefield



sylvia

I found that he married mary wales jane hobson married james gray and died 1877 aged 21.

so what do we know about Mary Wales?


perhaps finding her would help find him



did they have any children??



sylvia

are these Edward's children??

Ethelbert Spurr Hopton 1889 – 1890
Harold Hopton 1891 –
Bertram Spurr Hopton 1893 –
William Hopton 1898 –


I found 3 of the above children as step-children on the 1891 Census with Adolph and Mary Nelson


Is this possibly Mary Wales second marriage?

Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)

Hopton Mary Louisa A Goole 9c 1229
NIELSON Adolph Goole 9c 1229



NO ...... they are not Edward's children, see below!




sylvia

what does this mean????


1891 Census

Name: Harold Hopton
Age: 5/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Passenger
Gender: Male
Where born: Goole, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Brompton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel: Hickman


Albert Henry Hopton abt 1859, Goole, Yorkshire, England, Crew, Master, Vessels, Kent
Albert Borer abt 1863, London, England, Crew, Mate, Vessels, Kent
Arthur John Burt abt 1870, Rye, Sussex, England, Crew, Able Seamna, Vessels, Kent
Wm Smith abt 1871, Ramsbott, Suffolk, England, Crew, Cook, Vessels, Kent
Walter Brooke abt 1878, Goole, Yorkshire, England, Crew, Boy, Vessels, Kent
Mary Louisa Hopton Appleyard abt 1871, York, Yorkshire, England, Passenger, Masters Wife, Vessels, Kent
Harold Hopton abt 1890, Goole, Yorkshire, England, Passenger, Masters Son, Vessels, Kent




On the census image, it is Mary Louisa Appleyard Hopton



Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)

BROOK Mary Louisa A Goole 9c 941
Hopton Albert Henry Goole 9c 941



so that Harold Hopton is not the son of Edward Micklefield Hopton


sorry about that!



sylvia

Yes I did get a bit mixed up between Edward and his brother Albert.
The 4 children you found Sylvia are all Albert's.
Edward doesn't seem to have had any children. He did die in Wakefield lunatic asylum in 1897.

So far I haven't found another Mary Hopton who could be his wife or widow.
Heatherg

Went to a talk last night about workhouses in the yorkshire area and it was said that if a person was a lunatic that they were transferred to Wakefield. Then Wakefield charged the various parishes.

As soon at the patient became any better they were immediately taken back to their local workhouse because it cost money to keep them in the asylum.If a person died in Wakefield the chances are that their family was still in their local workhouse or living with relative away.-jl

Thank you Janet
I wonder if his wife was in the workhouse in 1891. She didn't come up on a search but I'll try again.
Heatherg