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hi guys
just letting you know that the james lloyd that you found must be my james as caroline and edward mills had children also called james john and ellen so i am very sure that it is the same family
many thanks

wendy :-)

hi guys
thank you all very much the info about the mills is all right
i dont know what james is occ is for sure it maybe a blacksmith
i have just found this info in my papers
1841 paradise street wolverhampton staff
joseph brawn or brown cant make it out age 60 stonemason
jane age 55
john age 22 coffee maker
joseph age 19 coffee maker
caroline lloyd age 25 upholsterer
so the family you all found on james lloyd could be carolines family
thanks everyone
wendy :-)

We really do need Wendy to come back here!

Chris''s baptism fits with the ones Susan found and everything else we have so far seems to lead to James and Maria but James is a Blacksmith!

Do you have absolute proof that 'your' james was a Stone mason Wendy??

Dea x

Chris

That was a good find as it fits with the other Bapts I found .

I think that confirms James and Maria are Carolines Parents along with the other Bapts.

Wait now for Wendy to get back to us I suppose.

Sue :-D

Edward was still at home in Cheshire in 1841. - A stone mason journeyman!

Still can't see Caroline yet!

Dea x

1851 ?...

MILLS, Evan Head Married M 47 1804 Chelsea Pensioner
Llangovan
Montgomeryshire
MILLS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 71 1780
Upton
Cheshire
MILLS, Edward Lodger Married M 38 1813 Stone Mason
Chester
Cheshire
MILLS, Caroline Wife Married F 34 1817 Stone Mason Wife
Chine
Surrey
MILLS, James Son M 1 1850 At Home
Wolverhampton
Staffordshire
Piece:
2172 Folio:
97 Page:
26 Registration District:
Great Boughton
Civil Parish:
Saint Oswalds Municipal Borough:
Chester Address:
Northgate Street, Saint Oswalds, Chester County:
Cheshire

Chris :)

Do you have Edward + Caroline on 1851 or any other census?

If so - can you please post for reference?

Dea x

Wendy - Do you have the marriage cert? - If so, can you please post ALL the details from it, including witnesses.

Thanks,

Dea x

Name: Caroline Sligh
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1817
Baptism Date: 5 Oct 1817
Father's Name: James Sligh
Mother's Name: Maria Sligh
Parish or Poor Law Union: Cheam
Borough: Sutton
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

(think that says Lloyd?...fathers occ. Blacksmith)

Chris :)


1851

LLOYD, James Head Married M 53 1798 Journeyman Blacksmith
Croydon
Surrey
LLOYD, Maria Wife Married F 55 1796
Cheam
Surrey
LLOYD, William Grand Son M 8 1843 Scholar
Sutton
Surrey
Piece:
1579 Folio:
391 Page:
5 Registration District:
Wandsworth
Civil Parish:
Streatham Municipal Borough:
Address:
The Rookery In The Yard, West Side Opposite South Corner Of Streatham Common, Streatham

Hi Wendy

Sorry but I cannot find a Birth for Caroline Lloyd bn 1818 Fathers name James in Chean Sutton.

Suex

Not so sure now.... this is the family I have been following but James here is a Blacksmith in 1841.

England Census
about James Lloyd Name: James Lloyd
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Surrey, England

Civil parish: Sutton
Hundred: Wallington (Second Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Epsom
Sub-registration district: Carshalton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1079
Book: 8
Folio: 33
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
James Lloyd 45
Maria Lloyd 45
John Lloyd 19
Robt Lloyd 15

Another birth for Chean,Still cant find Caroline Though.

, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Robert Lloyd Name: Robert Lloyd
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1824
Baptism Date: 2 May 1824
Father's Name: James Lloyd
Mother's Name: Maria Lloyd
Parish or Poor Law Union: Cheam
Borough: Sutton
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Ellen Lloyd Name: Ellen Lloyd
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1822
Baptism Date: 6 Jan 1822
Father's Name: James Lloyd
Mother's Name: Maria Lloyd
Parish or Poor Law Union: Cheam
Borough: Sutton
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about John Lloyd Name: John Lloyd
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1822
Baptism Date: 6 Jan 1822
Father's Name: James Lloyd
Mother's Name: Maria Lloyd
Parish or Poor Law Union: Cheam
Borough: Sutton
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

Looks like a set of Twins ....If they are yours

A possible Brother for caroline and a hint at her Mothers name

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about James Lloyd Name: James Lloyd
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1819
Baptism Date: 26 Dec 1819
Father's Name: James Lloyd
Mother's Name: Maria Lloyd
Parish or Poor Law Union: Cheam
Borough: Sutton
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Caroline Lloyd Name: Caroline Lloyd
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1846
Registration district: Epsom
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 4
Page Number: 127

Married Edward mills

my james lloyd was a stone mason caroline was born is it cheam surrey and she married in sutton by croydon surrey on the 26 apr 1846

thank you wendy

Kind of "iffy" about those ones. Father was a Gold beater and they lived in Clerkenwell.

Maureen

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Rebecca Lloyd Name: Rebecca Lloyd
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1817
Baptism Date: 17 Aug 1817
Father's Name: James Lloyd
Mother's Name: Sarah Lloyd
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St James
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

hi
susan did it say what his occ was please and were there anymore children

thanks wendy