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Dudley

Dudley Report 10 Jan 2012 11:34

Hi.
Can anybody please help with the details of an Irish birth. Looking for details of George Dunwoodie Sotheran born around 1861 in Kildare .
Father was in the army. No other details known, Details above taken from English census.
Many thanks
Dud.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 10 Jan 2012 11:39

George D Sotheran
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1862 Kildare Ireland
census: 31 Mar 1901 Aldershot (Hants),? Surrey,? England


name: George D Sotheran
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 39
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Kildare Ireland
record type: Household
registration district: Farnham
sub-district: Aldershot
ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels
civil parish: Aldershot (Hants)
county: Surrey

George Dunwoodie Sotheran
England Marriages, 1538–1973
birth: 1862
marriage: 03 Mar 1894 Guildford,? Surrey,? England
parents: Joshua Augustan Sotheran
spouse: Harriett Turp


groom's name: George Dunwoodie Sotheran
groom's birth date: 1862
groom's age: 32
bride's name: Harriett Turp
bride's birth date: 1867
bride's age: 27
marriage date: 03 Mar 1894
marriage place: Guildford, Surrey, England
groom's father's name: Joshua Augustan Sotheran
bride's father's name: John Turp
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M01489-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 994436

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 10 Jan 2012 11:42

Not seeing a birth on the Irish Civil Registration index.

Assume you have these details of his marriage.

Groom's Name: George Dunwoodie Sotheran
Groom's Birth Date: 1862
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 32
Bride's Name: Harriett Turp
Bride's Birth Date: 1867
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 27
Marriage Date: 03 Mar 1894
Marriage Place: Guildford, Surrey, England
Groom's Father's Name: Joshua Augustan Sotheran
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: John Turp
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01489-8
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 994436
Reference Number: Im297 It6 P1 Cn1

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 10 Jan 2012 11:44

spouse: Hannah
child: Charles John Sotheran


name: Charles John Sotheran
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 26 Sep 1866
baptism/christening place: Shajehanpore, Bengal, India
birth date: 04 Sep 1866
birthplace: Chr. Shajehanpore Bengal India
father's name: Joshua Augusta Sotheran
mother's name: Hannah
indexing project (batch) number: C75020-5
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 499023

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 10 Jan 2012 11:44

child: Maria Babington Sotheran


groom's name: Henry Shaw
bride's name: Maria Babington Sotheran
marriage date: 11 Sep 1868
marriage place: Murree, Bengal, India
groom's father's name: Henry Shaw
bride's father's name: Joshua Augusta Sotheran
indexing project (batch) number: M75021-4
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 499031

Dudley

Dudley Report 10 Jan 2012 11:46

Hi Ann

I believe Charles John was Goerges brother.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 10 Jan 2012 11:53

His sibling?

Name: Maria B. Sotheran
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Nov 1853
Baptism/Christening Place: Horfield, Gloucester, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Joshua Sotheran
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Hannah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02810-9
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1596410
Reference Number:


and another born in India

Name: Charles John Sotheran
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Sep 1866
Baptism/Christening Place: Shajehanpore, Bengal, India
Birth Date: 04 Sep 1866
Birthplace: Chr. Shajehanpore Bengal India
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Joshua Augusta Sotheran
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Hannah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C75020-5
System Origin: India-EASy
Source Film Number: 499023
Reference Number:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 10 Jan 2012 11:55

and Maria his sister :-)

Dudley

Dudley Report 10 Jan 2012 11:59

Hi Again. Thanks for help Dud.

Alemap

Alemap Report 10 Jan 2012 12:26

Joshua A Sotheran was not in the Army.
Edit:
(Just googled and he held the position of Sergeant in1851 on marriage cert.)
He was stationed with the army as a teacher.

When George was born they were in Curragh, Newbridge, Co. Kildare.
Birth registration records are from 1864 in Ireland. Before that you need the parish records.

First Name(s) J.A.
Last Name Sotheran
Number ---
Rank School Master
Unit 36th Foot (Herefordshire)Regiment
Stationed at: Curragh
National Archives reference:WO12 / 5079

Good Luck

Alemap

Alemap Report 10 Jan 2012 12:39

From irishgenealogy.ie

Arbour Hill Barracks, Dublin (COI)

Name JESSIE JANE SOTHERAN
Date of Birth N/R N/R N/R
Address ROYAL BARRACKS
Father JOSHUA SOTHERAN
Mother HANNAH SOTHERAN
Further details in the record
Father Occupation SCHOOL MASTER 36TH REGT
About the record
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier Image Filename
N/R 118 N/R DU-CI-BA-1174 d-268-1-1-118

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jan 2012 13:10

Joshua Augustis married Hannah Reg. Halifax 1851...

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Sep 1851 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sotheran Joshua Augustus Halifax 22 143
WILSON Hannah Halifax 22 143

Dudley

Dudley Report 10 Jan 2012 15:32

Hi All. Many thanks for all your searching. Very much appreciated
Dud.

Dudley

Dudley Report 10 Jan 2012 16:41

Hi
Can anybody help with Irish parish records for George Sotheran believed to have been born earlyy 1860's
Many thanks Dud.

Alemap

Alemap Report 10 Jan 2012 17:29

Try

http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie

pay to view site.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 10 Jan 2012 18:05

Dudley...Have you checked..www,theainsworths.com

They are connected to your family and have MC of Joshua on site...also check out others searching Sotheran...quite abit of info...and connections.

Have sent MC by PM...
Geo.D. MC also there

Dudley

Dudley Report 10 Jan 2012 20:05

Hi.
Many thanks for your help. Dud

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 11 Jan 2012 08:39

Dud...Just to say PM would not accept MC did you manage to access it on the site I listed..? If not let me know and I will try again ...

Dudley

Dudley Report 11 Jan 2012 11:13

Hi Erin. Found it on site. Thanks for the info. Dud.