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heatherg
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9 Jan 2012 19:17 |
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Help Please I can't find Edmund Kean in the 1911 census. In 1901 he was in Atcham Shropshire aged 27with
Helen or Ellen(Wife) b. 1877 Selina b. 1898 James b.1900 Herbert b. 1901 I've tried all sorts of posibilities without any luck. can anyone find them for me? Heatherg
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MarieCeleste
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9 Jan 2012 19:20 |
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Heather - have you found later records for them (e.g. deaths)?
What were birthplaces and Edmund's occupation?
EDIT: Posting 1901 for our reference
KEAN, Edmund Head Married M 27 1874 Railway Labourer (Wagons) Shrewsbury Shropshire KEAN, Helen Wife Married F 24 1877 Shrewsbury Shropshire KEAN, Selina Daughter F 3 1898 Shrewsbury Shropshire KEAN, James Son M 1 1900 Shrewsbury Shropshire KEAN, Herbert Son M 0 (9 MOS) 1901 Shrewsbury Shropshire SLATER, Mary J Boarder Married F 31 1870 Charwoman Shrewsbury Shropshire SLATER, Philip R Boarder M 10 1891 Shrewsbury Shropshire SLATER, William H Boarder M 8 1893 Shrewsbury Shropshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration District: Atcham Civil Parish: Shrewsbury Holy Cross and St Giles
Address: 11, Portobello, Shrewsbury Holy Cross And St Giles County: Shropshire
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Andrew
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9 Jan 2012 19:28 |
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Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KEEN, Edmund Head M 38 1873 House Painter Abbey Tregate Hunston VIEW KEEN, Ellen Wife F 36 1875 High Hall Salop VIEW GRINDLER, Margaret Lodger Widow F 56 1855 Charwoman VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 16081 Reference: RG14PN16081 RG78PN992 RD349 SD2 ED14 SN24 Registration District: Atcham Sub District: St Mary Enumeration District: 14 Parish: St Giles Address: 1 Colliers cum Shrewsbury County: Shropshire
Married 15 years
9 children born 6 living - so where are they? Andy
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LiverBird1
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9 Jan 2012 19:31 |
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Name: Edmund Kean Birth Date: abt 1874 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1949 Age at Death: 75 Registration district: Shrewsbury Inferred County: Shropshire Volume: 9a Page: 168
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Andrew
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9 Jan 2012 19:44 |
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These are the Kean births in Atcham 1895-1911. The top 3 appear in 1901 census, ut I can see none of them in 1911. I wonder if they simply weren't listed on the census form?
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1897 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kean Harriet Selina Atcham 6a 604
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1899 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KEAN James Thomas Atcham 6a 705
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kean Herbert Atcham 6a 644
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1902 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kean William Atcham 6a 658
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1904 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kean Ellen Atcham 6a 646
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1906 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kean Edmund Atcham 6a 646
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1908 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kean Edith Atcham 6a 607
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1910 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KEAN Evelyn M Atcham 6a 603
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Andrew
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9 Jan 2012 19:47 |
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...and these chilkdren born after the census
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1912 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kean Harry Haycock Atcham 6a 1113
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1913 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kean Dora Haycock Atcham 6a 1084
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1915 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kean Betty [RH]aycock Atcham 6a 1109
Marriage for Edmund and Ellen
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1896 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Haycock Ellen Atcham 6a 956 Kean Edmund Atcham 6a 956
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PricklyHolly
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9 Jan 2012 19:51 |
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Could this be Selina....
?? England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Harriet Selina Kean Name: Harriet Selina Kean Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1897 Registration district: Atcham Inferred County: Shropshire Volume: 6a Page: 604
?? Marriages Jun 1920 (>99%) Antley Thomas M Kean Atcham 6a 2006 Kean Harriet S Antley Atcham 6a 2006
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PricklyHolly
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9 Jan 2012 19:54 |
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???
1911 census - household transcription Person: KEAN, Harriet Institution: West Derby Union Cottage Homes, WEST DERBY UNION COTTAGE HOMES, LONGMORE LANE KEAN, Harriet Inmate F 12 1899 School N K VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 22355 Reference: RG14PN22355 RD455 SD3 ED7 SN9999 Registration District: West Derby Sub District: Fazakerley Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Fazakerley Address: Longmoor Lane Fazakerley Liverpool County: Lancashire
Edit: There is another birth for a Harriet Kean in 1898 so this could be the other one!
Births Sep 1898 (>99%) Kean Harriet Sunderland 10a 684
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PricklyHolly
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9 Jan 2012 19:56 |
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England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Harriet Selina Antley Name: Harriet Selina Antley Birth Date: 18 Oct 1897 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1970 Age at Death: 72 Registration district: Shrewsbury Inferred County: Shropshire Volume: 9a Page: 372
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Ozibird
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9 Jan 2012 19:58 |
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These deaths:
Deaths Mar 1904 KEAN William 1 Atcham 6a 499 Deaths Dec 1909 KEAN Edith 2 Atcham 6a 407 Deaths Dec 1913 Kean Dora 0 Atcham 6a 725
Only 8 children and 2 deaths before 1911 census found so far.
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PricklyHolly
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9 Jan 2012 20:02 |
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about James Thomas Kean Name: James Thomas Kean Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1899 Registration district: Atcham Inferred County: Shropshire Volume: 6a Page: 705
England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about James T Kean Name: James T Kean Spouse Name: Elsie M Harris Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1923 Registration district: Atcham Inferred County: Shropshire Volume Number: 6a Page Number: 1527
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about James Thomas Kean Name: James Thomas Kean Birth Date: 14 May 1899 Date of Registration: Sep 1987 Age at Death: 88 Registration district: Shrewsbury Inferred County: Shropshire Volume: 30 Page: 230
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Andrew
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9 Jan 2012 20:04 |
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Possible for nineth birth/ third death, born before the marriage?
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1895 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haycock Lily May Atcham 6a 601
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Dec 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haycock Lily May 5 Atcham 6a 409
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Ozibird
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9 Jan 2012 20:16 |
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This is the only marriage for an Evelyn M Kean after 1910.
Marriages Dec 1934 Brownlow Stanley Kean Liverpool S. 8b 150 Kean Evelyn M Brownlow Liverpool S. 8b 150
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PricklyHolly
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9 Jan 2012 20:23 |
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Antley/Kean births...............
Births Dec 1920 (>99%) Antley Doris J Kean Atcham 6a 1128
Births Dec 1924 (>99%) Antley Thomas R Kean Atcham 6a 916
Births Dec 1925 (>99%) Antley Edmund J Kean Atcham 6a 915
Births Jun 1929 (>99%) Antley Margaret E Kean Atcham 6a 906
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Ozibird
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9 Jan 2012 20:24 |
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That looks probable, Andrew.
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PricklyHolly
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9 Jan 2012 20:26 |
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Kean/Harris births in Atcham....
Births Sep 1925 (>99%) Kean Derrick E Harris Atcham 6a 1015
Births Dec 1931 (>99%) Kean Pamela J Harris Atcham 6a 822
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heatherg
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10 Jan 2012 14:59 |
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Thank you everyone I had to go off to the gym so couldn't reply last night. I have a lot to look at! Heatherg
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