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Edmund Kean

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heatherg

heatherg Report 9 Jan 2012 19:17

Help Please
I can't find Edmund Kean in the 1911 census.
In 1901 he was in Atcham Shropshire aged 27with

Helen or Ellen(Wife) b. 1877
Selina b. 1898
James b.1900
Herbert b. 1901
I've tried all sorts of posibilities without any luck.
can anyone find them for me?
Heatherg

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Jan 2012 19:20

Heather - have you found later records for them (e.g. deaths)?

What were birthplaces and Edmund's occupation?

EDIT: Posting 1901 for our reference

KEAN, Edmund Head Married M 27 1874 Railway Labourer (Wagons) Shrewsbury Shropshire
KEAN, Helen Wife Married F 24 1877 Shrewsbury Shropshire
KEAN, Selina Daughter F 3 1898 Shrewsbury Shropshire
KEAN, James Son M 1 1900 Shrewsbury Shropshire
KEAN, Herbert Son M 0 (9 MOS) 1901 Shrewsbury Shropshire
SLATER, Mary J Boarder Married F 31 1870 Charwoman Shrewsbury Shropshire
SLATER, Philip R Boarder M 10 1891 Shrewsbury Shropshire
SLATER, William H Boarder M 8 1893 Shrewsbury Shropshire
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Registration District: Atcham
Civil Parish: Shrewsbury Holy Cross and St Giles

Address: 11, Portobello, Shrewsbury Holy Cross And St Giles County: Shropshire

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Jan 2012 19:28

Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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KEEN, Edmund Head M 38 1873 House Painter Abbey Tregate Hunston VIEW
KEEN, Ellen Wife F 36 1875 High Hall Salop VIEW
GRINDLER, Margaret Lodger Widow F 56 1855 Charwoman VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16081 Reference:
RG14PN16081 RG78PN992 RD349 SD2 ED14 SN24

Registration District:
Atcham Sub District:
St Mary Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
St Giles

Address:
1 Colliers cum Shrewsbury County:
Shropshire

Married 15 years

9 children born 6 living - so where are they?

Andy

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 9 Jan 2012 19:31

Name: Edmund Kean
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1949
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Shrewsbury
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 9a
Page: 168

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Jan 2012 19:44

These are the Kean births in Atcham 1895-1911. The top 3 appear in 1901 census, ut I can see none of them in 1911. I wonder if they simply weren't listed on the census form?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Kean Harriet Selina Atcham 6a 604

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Births Jun 1899 (>99%)
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KEAN James Thomas Atcham 6a 705

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Births Sep 1900 (>99%)
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Kean Herbert Atcham 6a 644

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Births Dec 1902 (>99%)
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Kean William Atcham 6a 658

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Births Mar 1904 (>99%)
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Kean Ellen Atcham 6a 646

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Births Sep 1906 (>99%)
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Kean Edmund Atcham 6a 646

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Births Mar 1908 (>99%)
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Kean Edith Atcham 6a 607

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Births Sep 1910 (>99%)
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KEAN Evelyn M Atcham 6a 603


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Jan 2012 19:47

...and these chilkdren born after the census

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
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Kean Harry Haycock Atcham 6a 1113

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Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
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Kean Dora Haycock Atcham 6a 1084

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Births Mar 1915 (>99%)
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Kean Betty [RH]aycock Atcham 6a 1109


Marriage for Edmund and Ellen

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1896 (>99%)
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Haycock Ellen Atcham 6a 956
Kean Edmund Atcham 6a 956

Andy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Jan 2012 19:51

Could this be Selina....

??
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Harriet Selina Kean
Name: Harriet Selina Kean
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1897
Registration district: Atcham
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 604


??
Marriages Jun 1920 (>99%)
Antley Thomas M Kean Atcham 6a 2006
Kean Harriet S Antley Atcham 6a 2006

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Jan 2012 19:54

???

1911 census - household transcription
Person: KEAN, Harriet
Institution: West Derby Union Cottage Homes, WEST DERBY UNION COTTAGE HOMES, LONGMORE LANE

KEAN, Harriet Inmate F 12 1899 School N K VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22355 Reference:
RG14PN22355 RD455 SD3 ED7 SN9999

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
Fazakerley Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Fazakerley

Address:
Longmoor Lane Fazakerley Liverpool County:
Lancashire

Edit: There is another birth for a Harriet Kean in 1898 so this could be the other one!

Births Sep 1898 (>99%)
Kean Harriet Sunderland 10a 684

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Jan 2012 19:56

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Harriet Selina Antley
Name: Harriet Selina Antley
Birth Date: 18 Oct 1897
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1970
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Shrewsbury
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 9a
Page: 372

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 9 Jan 2012 19:58

These deaths:

Deaths Mar 1904
KEAN William 1 Atcham 6a 499

Deaths Dec 1909
KEAN Edith 2 Atcham 6a 407

Deaths Dec 1913
Kean Dora 0 Atcham 6a 725

Only 8 children and 2 deaths before 1911 census found so far.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Jan 2012 20:02

??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about James Thomas Kean
Name: James Thomas Kean
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1899
Registration district: Atcham
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 705


England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about James T Kean
Name: James T Kean
Spouse Name: Elsie M Harris
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1923
Registration district: Atcham
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 1527


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about James Thomas Kean
Name: James Thomas Kean
Birth Date: 14 May 1899
Date of Registration: Sep 1987
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Shrewsbury
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 30
Page: 230

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Jan 2012 20:04

Possible for nineth birth/ third death, born before the marriage?

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1895 (>99%)
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Haycock Lily May Atcham 6a 601

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Deaths Dec 1900 (>99%)
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Haycock Lily May 5 Atcham 6a 409


Andy

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 9 Jan 2012 20:16

This is the only marriage for an Evelyn M Kean after 1910.

Marriages Dec 1934
Brownlow Stanley Kean Liverpool S. 8b 150
Kean Evelyn M Brownlow Liverpool S. 8b 150

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Jan 2012 20:23

Antley/Kean births...............

Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Antley Doris J Kean Atcham 6a 1128

Births Dec 1924 (>99%)
Antley Thomas R Kean Atcham 6a 916

Births Dec 1925 (>99%)
Antley Edmund J Kean Atcham 6a 915

Births Jun 1929 (>99%)
Antley Margaret E Kean Atcham 6a 906

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 9 Jan 2012 20:24

That looks probable, Andrew.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Jan 2012 20:26

Kean/Harris births in Atcham....

Births Sep 1925 (>99%)
Kean Derrick E Harris Atcham 6a 1015

Births Dec 1931 (>99%)
Kean Pamela J Harris Atcham 6a 822

heatherg

heatherg Report 10 Jan 2012 14:59

Thank you everyone
I had to go off to the gym so couldn't reply last night.
I have a lot to look at!
Heatherg