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Elizabeth Wilkinson b1828 Bishops Hull or Taunton

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Martin

Martin Report 8 Jan 2012 15:51

I'm trying to trace the above. Census records show her birthplace as Bishops Hull or Taunton, but I can't trace her Birth records anywhere.
According to a family source, she married Edwin ROBERTS in about 1852 but I can't trace this marriage on FreeBMD or elsewhere.
Any help would be appreciated
Martin

Astra

Astra Report 8 Jan 2012 15:57

ROBERTS, Edwin Head Married M 33 1828 Woolen Draper & Taylor
Choltn
Cheshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 33 1828
Bishops Hull...
Somersetshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Erich Alfred Son M 7 1854 Scholar
Bishops Hull...
Somersetshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Alan Bandle Son M 6 1855 Scholar
Bishops Hull...
Somersetshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Cecilia Anna Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar
Oswestry
Shropshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Cecil Adgas Son M 2 1859
Hilston
Hertfordshire VIEW
SAUDERS, James Boarder Unmarried M 22 1839 Warehouseman
Wiltshire VIEW
GREEN, Eliza Servant Unmarried F 15 1846 House Servant
Bledlow
Bedfordshire VIEW



Civil Parish:
Luton Municipal Borough:
Address:
24, Castle Street, Luton County:
Bedfordshire


Gee

Gee Report 8 Jan 2012 15:58

Can you post a census for ref as I cant spot her?

She was born a Wilkinson?

Astra

Astra Report 8 Jan 2012 15:59

Looking at this marriage. Maybe her mother married or re-married after she was born

Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Job Elizabeth Colebert Taunton 5c 718
>>MACEY Elizabeth Taunton 5c 718
Roberts Edwin Taunton 5c 718
WOODFORD William Taunton 5c 718

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 8 Jan 2012 16:03

Think you have lost your way here .

Name: Edwin Roberts
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1852
Registration district: Taunton
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 718
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Name: Elizabeth Colebert Job
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1852
Registration district: Taunton
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume Number: 5c

Could she have been a Widow.First son from 1871 cencus was born Taunton.

ellieathome

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 8 Jan 2012 16:05

Name: Elizabeth Roberts
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edwin Roberts
Gender: Female
Where born: Bishops Hull; Taunton, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Luton
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1861

Name: Ernest Alfred Roberts
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edwin Roberts
Mother's name: Elizabeth Roberts
Gender: Male
Where born: Bishops Hull; Taunton, Somerset, England

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 8 Jan 2012 16:26

1841
Name: Elizabeth Cobb
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Female

Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen
Hundred: Taunton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Taunton St Mary Magdalen
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 972
Book: 7
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Cobb 12

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others on page
Name: John Cobb
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male

Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen
Hundred: Taunton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Taunton St Mary Magdalen

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Name: Hannah Cobb
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female

Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen
Hundred: Taunton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Taunton St Mary Magdalen
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 972
Book: 7
Page Number: 19
looking at the Census all living at same Address

Astra

Astra Report 8 Jan 2012 16:33

I think you will find that William Woodford married Elizabeth Colebert Job and Edwin Roberts married Elizabeth Macey

WOODFORD, William Head Married M 30 1831 Boot Maker
Taunton
Somerset VIEW
WOODFORD, Elizabeth C Wife Married F 33 1828
Wellington
Somerset VIEW
WOODFORD, William Son M 2 1859
Taunton
Somerset VIEW

Civil Parish:
St Mary Magdalen Municipal Borough:
Address:
Spring Island, St Mary Magdalen, Taunton County:
Somersetshire

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 8 Jan 2012 16:38

Tree on Ancestry has it as Elizabeth Macey .Direct line for this person


ellieathome

Astra

Astra Report 8 Jan 2012 16:40

Thanks Ellie I just wondered why you had posted the marriage details of Elizabeth Colebert Job with Edwin Roberts.
Confusing me a little.

Astra

Astra Report 8 Jan 2012 16:43

So Martin. Where does the name Wilkinson come from. Is it from one of the children's birth certificates?

Can you come back and give us all the information you have please.

Martin

Martin Report 8 Jan 2012 17:31

Astra and others
Your 1861 Census is the correct family. Cecilia Anna (Roberts) Pomeroy b 1857 Oswestry was my gr grandmother. I'm trying to confirm her mother Elizabeth's maiden name. I thought that it was Macey, but an old family letter says that it was Wilkinson
Thanks Martin

Martin

Martin Report 8 Jan 2012 17:40

Another thought. If Elizabeth Wilkinson b 1828, had married about, say 1846 at age 18, to a Macey, and was then widowed, the marriage of Edwin Roberts and Elizabeth Macey in Dec 1852 would be posible. Their first child (Ernest Alfred) was born in Dec 1853 (Taunton 5c 375) .
I don't have any Birth Certificates, only Census records.

Astra

Astra Report 8 Jan 2012 17:53

PM from Martin

My great Aunt, Ethel Pomeroy left some notes which have just come to light. She wrote that she had lived with her grandmother, Elizabeth (Wilkinson) Roberts in London in the 1890s in London after her (Ethel's) mother had died. She wrote that Elizabeth "was a Wilkinson from Taunton". Cecilia (Roberts) Pomeroy died in 1894. Cecilia's parents were Edwin Roberts and Elizabeth Wilkinson. Cecilia was b 1857 in Oswestry.

Astra

Astra Report 8 Jan 2012 18:07

1901. Was Erich mistranscribed in 1861. In 1871 he is Ernest Alfred so this is Elizabeth with her eldest son. No sign of Ethel but maybe she stayed between census records as in 1891 Elizabeth is still in Taunton.

ROBERTS, Ernest Head Widower M 47 1854 Tailors Cutter
Taunton
Somersetshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Elizabeth Mother Widow F 73 1828
Taunton
Somersetshire VIEW


Civil Parish:
Hammersmith Municipal Borough:
Address:
8, Westcroft Square, Hammersmith, London County:
London


Astra

Astra Report 8 Jan 2012 20:54

I did look for a Macey/Wilkinson marriage earlier but couldn't locate one.
If you get the marriage certificate it will tell you her status but as far as I can tell from the census records Elizabeth Macey is still in Bishop's Hull in 1851 with her parents and Edwin is in Taunton. He is a tailor and she is a milliner so it would seem likely that they met through their trade. But it all depends if she is the correct person and the only way to prove it is to either get one of the children's birth certificates or Elizabeth and Edwin's marriage certificate. Would seem a tenner well spent to me.

Martin

Martin Report 9 Jan 2012 06:13

I am now more certain that the marriage of Edwin Roberts and Elizabeth Macey (Taunton Dec 1852 5c 718) is correct. This is confirmed further by the 1851 Census showing Elizabeth Macey (23) as being born in Bishops Hull and living with her parents in Taunton.

I am left with the dilemma that Ethel Pomeroy stated in her note that "she (Elizabeth Roberts) was a Wilkinson from Taunton". Ethel probably wrote the notes in the 1930s.
So, where does the Wilkinson fit in? A Marriage Certificate may be the only answer.
The search coninues. If anything turns up I'll post it.
Thank you for your efforts.