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1871 look up please

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Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 1 Jan 2012 11:27

WALTER DAYES born 1866 hull yorkshire died 1950 in milford haven pembrokeshire

i have him 1891, 1911, in 1901 his wife was with family in sculcoates, he was a deep sea fisherman, just odd for three days i been looking for 1871 and cant find him, his wife is WINSON T born 1870 hull they married in 1885 sculcoates

thank you
shirl

Andrew

Andrew Report 1 Jan 2012 11:36

Do you know who his parents were?

Andy

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 1 Jan 2012 11:42

no andy thats why i need 1871 hun

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 1 Jan 2012 11:44

i searched free bmd and family search nothing, the census state he was born 1866 hull, there is a thomas w dayes, but its odd 1911 and the others state he is 1866 and name is walter

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jan 2012 11:44

his marriage cert should name his father .if known

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 1 Jan 2012 11:45

yes shirley just odd cant find 1871

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Jan 2012 11:50

The Thomas W Dayes in 1871 had a father also called Thomas, perhaps the son switched to being called Walter to distinguish him from his father? Assuming that the W stands for Walter.

Definitely need to check father's name on Walter's marriage cert.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Jan 2012 11:54

Looks like it was Thomas William Dayes, he was slightly younger in 1881 and 1891. So he wasn't Thomas Walter.

1891:

Name: Thos Wm Dayes
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Dayes
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabus
Town: Kingston upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 55
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3942
Folio: 64
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
>>Thos Wm Dayes 23
Jane Dayes 26


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jan 2012 11:55

Name: Winsor Thompson Read
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1885
Registration district: Sculcoates
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 209
spouse Walter Dayes

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Jan 2012 11:59

daughter ?
Name: Winsor Read Dayes
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1888
Registration district: Sculcoates
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 159

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 1 Jan 2012 11:59

he is definatley walter kucinta no census has him as thomas

here is 1891

RG12; Piece: 4533; Folio 44; Page 12

here his surname is dayer but on censes it states dayes the s is small and curled

1911

RG14; Piece: 33177; Schedule Number: 333.

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 1 Jan 2012 12:00

yes shirley i have everything on Winson Thompson surname was Read

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 1 Jan 2012 12:02

his death also doesn't state thomas as first name unless it wasnt ever used

Walter Dayes
Birth Date: abt 1865
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1950
Age at Death: 85
Registration district: Haverfordwest
Inferred County: Pembrokeshire
Volume: 8c
Page: 427

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Jan 2012 12:03

Hi Shirley 05, I added the 1891 census for Thomas W Dayes in order to rule him out, as middle name was William, not Walter.

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 1 Jan 2012 12:04

marriage cert it is i'll use winson's name

thank you happy new year

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Jan 2012 12:07

Shirley, there could be a number of reasons why he can't be found earlier - serious mistranscription, his mother may have remarried and he's registered under stepfather's name, perhaps he was born out of wedlock and later took the name Dayes when his mother married - all sort of reasons.

I'm not seeing an obvious birth record for him so you really need to get that marriage certificate as posted by the "other" Shirley!

I've had a look in Ancestry trees and it seems there's the same stumbling block.

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 1 Jan 2012 19:40

yes marie i saw them too, just thought i would ask some experts thanks for your trying everyone xx