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Name "Minsey"????

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tashnben

tashnben Report 1 Jan 2012 03:53

The son of Thomas Lindsey and Sarah (nee Lyon), Minsey was born about 1867 in St Lukes, Middlesex. This is according to the 1881 England Census where Minsey was staying with his grandparents (Sarah's parents). From here... nothing. Both GR and Ancestry have transcribed the name as Minsey. Is this name short for another name?
After Thomas died, Sarah remarried - Alexander Horatio Clark where she had 5 more children. It appears that Thomas died before the birth of his son.
Please help if you can.
Thank you!!

jax

jax Report 1 Jan 2012 04:53

1871
Name: Henry Lyon
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: St Luke, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Finsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 199
Piece: 411
Folio: 81
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
William Lyon 41
Sarah Lyon 45
Thomas Lyon 19
Henry Lyon 3


Henry is son in law? do you know who he is

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Births Mar 1868 (>99%)
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LINDSEY Henry Edward St Luke 1b 756

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After staring at the 1881 image it does look like Henry

Lynski

Lynski Report 1 Jan 2012 05:09

Isn't son in law another term for step-son?? I have seen that mentioned on threads before......

Susan

Susan Report 1 Jan 2012 05:15

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Thomas Lindsey Name: Thomas Lindsey
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Spouse Name: Sarah Lyon
Spouse Age: 17
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 May 1865
Parish: Bethnal Green St Philip
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Thomas Lindsey
Spouse Father Name: William Lyon
Register Type: Parish Register


jax

jax Report 1 Jan 2012 05:25

It is another name for stepson but this couple have been married years so he would not be a stepson in this particular case

Susan

Susan Report 1 Jan 2012 05:28

Possible death for Thomas

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Thomas Lindsey Name: Thomas Lindsey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1866
Age at Death: 23
Registration district: Shoreditch
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 103

jax

jax Report 1 Jan 2012 05:30

Tashnben has all the other records in her tree on ancestry but I cannot see any reference for Henry Lyon

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2012 05:32

Jax


I agree.

It does look like Henry on the 1881, and that means it has been mis-transcribed as Henry


Would be worth submitting Alternate Information to ancestry ........ not yet possible to do that here on GR




sylvia

jax

jax Report 1 Jan 2012 05:43

can do it on FMP then it will change on Genes but will wait for Tashnben to agree

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2012 05:47

There's something strange here


Son born ca 1868 (census information, 1871, 1881)

Jax found a possible birth registration March quarter 1868


Sarah and Thomas married 21 May 1865


Susan found possible death for Thomas Apr-May-Jun 1866



which means he cannot be the father of Henry Lindsey



which may be why he is under the name of Lyon on the 1871 Census




sylvia

jax

jax Report 1 Jan 2012 05:51

There does not seem to be a birth for Henry Lyon in that area so if he was registered he could well be the Henry Edward Lindsey I found ??

Not finding him after 1881

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2012 05:55

jax


he could well be


and that could also be the reason why he was left with his grandparents after Sarah married a second time.


I've been trying to find a baptism for him, and cannot





sylvia

jax

jax Report 1 Jan 2012 05:58

Name: Henry Lindsey
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Spouse Name: Annie Perry
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 May 1901
Parish: Haggerston St Mary
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Henry Thomas Lindsey
Spouse Father Name: Harry Perry
Register Type: Parish Register

occupation Jeweller for Henry and gold chain maker for dec'd father so this could be him

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2012 06:02

and father was a gold chain maker on the 1861 Census


William Lyon was a watch maker



you might have it!




sylvia

jax

jax Report 1 Jan 2012 06:14

1911 census - household transcription
Person: LINDSAY, Annie
Address: 20 Southgate Road


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LINDSAY, Harry Head Married M 42 1869 Watchmaker London St Lukes VIEW
LINDSAY, Annie Wife Married
10 years F 35 1876 Essex Barking VIEW
LINDSAY, Herbert Son Single M 15 1896 Van Boy London St Lukes VIEW
LINDSAY, Frances Daughter Single F 18 1893 Feather Curler London St Lukes VIEW
LINDSAY, Grace Daughter Single F 14 1897 Assistant London St Lukes VIEW

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Looks promising now :-D

jax

jax Report 1 Jan 2012 06:22

Henry is a widower on his marriage to Annie so those children must be from his first marriage??

Ummm where are they in 1901? and who was Henry's first wife?

Looks like it says 20 yrs married 6 children all living but crossed out on the 1911

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2012 06:40

have you managed to find any of them on the 1901 Census?


I can't


and I can't seem to find a baptism either!





sylvia

jax

jax Report 1 Jan 2012 06:47

Sorry Sylv I edited my previous post

Time for bed for me

Happy New Year <3

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jan 2012 06:49

Happy New Year <3 <3


sleep tight



We're still waiting for midnight!

Vera2010

Vera2010 Report 1 Jan 2012 08:00

?? Henry with first wife. Mistranscribed Hermes looks like Francis to me.
Henry watch and clock ? maker

1891 England Census
about Henry T Linsey Name: Henry T Linsey
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hermes H Linsey
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 245
Folio: 90
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Henry T Linsey 23
Hermes H Linsey 21
Henry W Linsey 4
William A Linsey 3
Alfred G Linsey 1

Vera