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Thanks Tony, will do Reg.

Hi Reg.

As already stated......there were no childrens births registered in Victoria or South Australia on bdm index's to Gilbert Lionel FURLONG and Ethel Florence FENWICK.

If they married in 1911 and Gilbert Lionel Furlong was deceased by 1914 ( according to his wifes 2nd marriage in S.A as Widow ) then there is only a 2 to 3 year window for any children births.
As there is nothing showing up on the birth index's....i doubt there are any decendants. To confirm this.....it would be best to find and purchase the death cert of Ethel Florence FRAZER ( FENWICK ) as it should list on her death cert any children born to her ( 1st & 2nd marriages )


In general...Australian death certs lists ( names and ages )of any children ( deceased or living ) of a deceased person.

Tony ( Australia )

Hi, I feel I owe you guys an explanation. Gilbert L was my grandfather's
(Alfred) long lost brother, My task is to track down and contact any kin from his first marriage that may be living in Oz. thanks to all of you for your invaluable help. wishing you all a very happy new year Reg.

Cant see a death for him in Australia up to 1990s

Newspaper article ( Trove ) shows he was imprisoned for 3 months for stealing. If so....he may have found it difficult after release to find employment, and "perhaps" changed his name, or even left the country ( possible )

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/titles?state=New South Wales

"snippet"
THEFTS FROM AN HOTEL.The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Thursday 21 January 1909
Article... THEFTS FROM AN HOTEL. At the Water Police court yesterday Gilbert Lionel furlong, 28, a labourer, was charged with stealing an electro-plated tanKard, a table-knife, a table knife, and two tumblers, valued at 18s 4d,
the property of Walter Halifax Watson of the Paragon Hotel, Circular Quay ...ect ( more on-line ).......3 months Imprisonment.

Also.....having spent time in prison, its possibly may not be found on more current "Australian Voteing Electorol rolls" after being released.

Below is the marriage that Helen found FURLONG - FRASER
It took place in South Australia in 1914.
The Status ( W ) shows Ethel Florence FURLONG was a Widow.
So a death for Gilbert Lionel FURLONG somewhere ( Country? ) between 1911 & 1914.


Groom: FRAZER
Given names: Charles Matthew
Bride: FURLONG
Given names: Ethel Florence
Date: 1914-11-28
Groom Age: 34
Status: S
Groom's Father: Frederick Zeigler FRAZER
Bride Age: 29
Status: W
Bride's Father: William Edward FENWICK
Place: All Saints Church Hindmarsh
District: Hin
Symbol: S
Book/Page: 261/558
Cross Reference:

Tony ( Melbourne Aus. )

Thanks to all of you, I now know a lot more about Ethel. still trying to find what happened to Gilbert Lionel ? Reg

Thanks, to all you guys out there,very helpfull, Reg

A possibility for his wife's birth:

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922

Name: Ethel Florence Fenwick
Birth Date: 23 Jan 1883
Father's Name: William Fenwick
Mother's name: Mary Anne Donelly
Birth Place: Ethelton
Registration Place: Port Adelaide, South Australia
Page Number: 187
Volume Number: 298

But you'd need marriage cert to confirm.

Reginald, go to your first post on this thread and click "edit". You can then get back to the title and add "Australia".

There are some very experienced Oz researchers who may then spot it - I only have access to what's on Ancestry.

Think he must have been back and forth. The 1903 ER shows him as a resident:

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980

Name: Gilbert Furlong
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1903
State: Victoria
District: Southern Melbourne
Subdistrict: Melbourne South

A fireman, living at 37 Moray Street, South Melbourne.

Arrival?:

New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922

Name: G L Furlong
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Age: 30
Port of Departure: Melbourne
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 23 May 1911
Vessel Name: Leura

For station it looks like "Fireman" but very scrawly. Was he crew?

EDIT: There are loads of shipping lists for him, starting 1900.

I know you've got this, just working through ....

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950

Name: Gilbert Lionel Furlong
Spouse Name: Flor Ethel Fenwick
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Number: 232

thanks Andy, most of his life before 1911 i know. Its more the Australian part I don't. thanks
Reg

1881 census for ref

1881 England Census
about Gilbert L. Turlow
Name: Gilbert L. Turlow
[Gilbert L. Furlong]
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Frederick Geo. Turlow
Mother's name: Jemima Turlow
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Westbury On Trym
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address: No 17 Clarence Place
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Child

Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: Westbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2502
Folio: 62
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Geo. Turlow 34
Jemima Turlow 37
Eleanor M. Turlow 13
Fredk.H. Turlow 11
Ernest A. Turlow 9
Alfred O. Turlow 7
Kate E. Turlow 5
Horace E. Turlow 3
Gilbert L. Turlow


Andy

I am looking for info or descendants of the above, last heard of in Melbourn, Australia where he married Flor Ethel Fenwick in 1911.