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Another 1911 census lookup please!;;Ethel Thomas

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Linda

Linda Report 21 Dec 2011 01:03

Thank you all for your help on Ethel Thomas.

I also found her Mother Elizabeth Haughey Death 1913 Middlesbrough.

Patrick Houghey (stepfather) 1924 Kieghley yorks

but un able to find Ethel parents marriage under the name of John Thomas & Elizabeth. pritchard

But Did find in 1890 Middlesbrough of John Thomas & Elizabeth Davies..I am totally confused now lol.

Linda :-)..Sorry Just noticed the second page!

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Dec 2011 21:40

It's not the Lockerbie one. (They're with the Thomas in-laws so it's easy to tell.)/

Given where her mother and sister are in 1911,I wonder about this death?
Deaths Sep 1907
THOMAS Ethel 16 Keighley 9a 120

Maureen

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Dec 2011 21:12

I looked for marrs 1901-1911q1 in DUR, NRY on FreeBMD, then sorted out the pairings using the local index at:
http://www.northeastbmd.org.uk/

Surname Forename(s) Year District (1904q4 Easington 10a 74)
THOMAS Ethel 1904 Durham Eastern
PRESHO Matthew 1904 Durham Eastern
Register No. - Entry No. - District
DE/C-E/T2 - 432 - Durham Eastern (1904)
[I think rego C-E/T is for Holy Trinity, Wingate Grange]

Year Surname Forename Initial Ref Number Click to contact (1907q1 Stockton 10a 95)
1907 THOMAS ETHEL M-AA-J75-0-0149 Middlesbrough
1907 WALDRAM ALFRED M-AA-J75-0-0149 Middlesbrough

Year Surname Forename Initial Ref Number Click to contact (1907q4 Middlesbro' 9d 1348)
1907 ELLIOT FRED S-44-3-0-225 Stockton-on-Tees
1907 THOMAS ETHEL S-44-3-0-225 Stockton-on-Tees

Surname Forename(s) Year District (1910q4 Durham 10a 72)
LOCKERBIE Douglas 1910 Durham Central
THOMAS Ethel 1910 Durham Central
Register No. - Entry No. - District
DCREG 87 - 50 - Durham Central (1910)
[REG is for the Registrar's own rego, which would cover rego office marrs and RC marrs (which the registrar would have to attend at this time)]


HOUSEHOLD PRESHO MATTHEW M 1884 27 Easington Durham
HOUSEHOLD PRESHO ETHEL F 1886 25 Easington Durham

HOUSEHOLD WALDRAM ALFRED M 1885 26 Brentford Middlesex
HOUSEHOLD WALDRAM ETHEL F 1885 26 Brentford Middlesex



HOUSEHOLD LOCKERBIE DOUGHLAS M 1887 24 Durham Durham
HOUSEHOLD LOCKERBIE ETHEL F 1889 22 Durham Durham


I searched Ancestry for Ethel Elliot (soundex) w/o Fred* - just one hit:

Ethel Elliott Fred abt 1884 city, Durham, England Wife city, Yorkshire-North Riding
Fred Elliott Ethel abt 1879 city, Yorkshire, England Head city, Yorkshire-North Riding

HOUSEHOLD ELLIOTT FRED M 1879 32 Guisborough Yorkshire North Riding



Going by Ethel's age, my guess is Lockerbie - maybe someone can look them up in 1911

NB no likely deaths on FreeBMD 1901-1911 in DUR NRY

Dea

Dea Report 20 Dec 2011 14:33

I will post it just in case.........

THOMAS, Elisha Head Married 22 years M 43 1868 Steel Smelter Steel Works South Bank Yorks VIEW
THOMAS, Eliza Wife Married 22 years F 45 1866 South Bank Yorks VIEW
THOMAS, Ethel Daughter Single F 21 1890 South Bank Yorks VIEW
THOMAS, Harold Son M 14 1897 Carpenter South Bank Yorks VIEW
THOMAS, Elisha Son M 11 1900 South Bank Yorks VIEW
THOMAS, Amy Daughter F 5 1906 South Bank Yorks VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29222 Reference:
RG14PN29222 RG78PN1694 RD535 SD1 ED19 SN15

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Ormesby Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Eston

Address:
23 Oliver Street South Bank County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 20 Dec 2011 14:31

There is another one! - Do you want her?

Dea x

Linda

Linda Report 20 Dec 2011 14:24

mgnv- thats right I have all information prior 1881 on the Frill / pritchard family as they were kind enough to stay/ live close to each other!


Dea- thanks for the lookup on ethel Thomas unfortunately she is`nt the correct one. Thanks for your Time!

Linda. :-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Dec 2011 14:03

Linda - I can't see original image, but I guess 1881 Folgers Fill is actually Fergus Frill (mistranscribed).

Dea

Dea Report 20 Dec 2011 14:02

THOMAS, George Head Married 22 years M 46 1865 Grave Digger London VIEW
THOMAS, Fanny Wife Married F 46 1865 Middleton Yorks VIEW
THOMAS, Ethel Annie Daughter Single F 21 1890 Artist Marster by the Sea Yorks VIEW
PREVILL, Annie Mother-In Law Married 47 years F 71 1840 Midds Mill Cleveland Yorks VIEW
RICHARDSON, Arthur W E Boarder Single M 48 1863 Seaman Master Marster Ty the Sea Yorks VIEW
RENTON, John P Visitor Single M 20 1891 Shident Civil Engs Redcar Yorks VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29254 Reference:
RG14PN29254 RG78PN1695 RD535 SD2 ED16 SN115

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Middlesbrough East Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Middlesbrough

Address:
13 Belle Vue Road Middlesbrough County:
Yorkshire (North riding)


George and Annie had only had the one child up until then.

Mother in law Annie had 6 children and they were all still alive at that time.

Dea x

Linda

Linda Report 20 Dec 2011 13:25

This is ongoing from above!

Can someone give me the information on 1911 census for the person below.

Thomas Ethel Annie 1890 Marster By The Sea Yorks Middlesbrough.

Thank you.
Linda.. :-)

Linda

Linda Report 20 Dec 2011 12:23

mgnv / MaureeninNY

all above information is all correct. Elizabeth 1855 was born Trudhoe /spennymoor co.Durham..

Now I know who Elizabeth husband John Thomas is called I will find a Marriage.

The Surname ``FRILL ` is Sarah PRICHARD Wife M Female 50 Workington, maiden name..Fergus Frill is her Brother.!

Thank you both for helping me to sort the family line!
Linda :-D

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Dec 2011 11:36

Thanks,Malcolm. It must read Tudhoe. It was getting late here!

Maureen

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Dec 2011 06:09

I've not heard of Ludor (see Maureen's 1891) - maybe it's a mistranscription of Tudhoe.
EDIT I've deleted my request for 1891 - seems redundant now Maureen's given better info on it.


1861
Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Residence
Elizabeth Pritchard David,Sarah abt 1854 Gateshead , Durham, England Daughter Conside and Knitsley, Durham

RG09/3732 45 14 MILCHARD, Elizabeth Durham
There's also a James Frill present whose relationship I can't guess


1871
Elizabeth Pritchard David,Sarah abt 1855 Tudhoe , Durham, England Daughter Seaton, Cumberland

and this guy's a boarder:
RG10/5241 28 50 FRILL, Fergus Cockermouth


1881 Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
David PRICHARD Head M Male 50 Wales Labourer Ironworks
Sarah PRICHARD Wife M Female 50 Workington, Cumberland, England
Thomas PRICHARD Son U Male 24 Gateshead, Durham, England Puddler Ironworks
Elizabeth PRICHARD Daur U Female 21 Spennymoor, Durham, England Dressmaker
Sarah A. PRICHARD Daur Female 12 Workington, Cumberland, England Scholar
Folgers FILL Boarder U Male 56 Workington, Cumberland, England Puddler (Iron)
Samuel HUNT Boarder U Male 30 Consett, Durham, England Labourer Ironworks
Thomas DAVIS Boarder U Male 34 Wales Puddler Ironworks
Patrick HOUGHEY Boarder U Male 31 Stockton, Durham, England Puddler Ironworks
Samuel MILLS Boarder Male 5 Stockton, Durham, England Scholar
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Source Information:
Dwelling 16 Gauntlett St
Census Place Linthorpe, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342169
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4855 / 59
Page Number 28
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough

Spennymoor is 2km SW of Tudhoe. Both are in Durham RD
Workington is in Cockermouth RD


So John Thomas being an iron puddler is not out of line with the men in her 1881 family.
Also 1881 shows how Eliz Pri*chard would know Patrick.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Dec 2011 01:13

1891 census transcription details for: 8, High Duncombe, Linthorpe, Middlesbrough
RG number: RG12 Piece: 4011 Folio: 114 Page: 36

Reg. District: Middlesbrough Sub District: Middlesbrough
THOMAS, John Head Married M 35 1856 Iron Works & Puddler
Scotland
THOMAS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 36 1855
Durham Ludor
THOMAS, Ethel Daughter F 0 (1M) 1891
Middlesbrough
Yorkshire


Maureen

Linda

Linda Report 19 Dec 2011 23:16

mgnv

yes I found that marriage of 1903

Thank you!
Linda. :-)

Linda

Linda Report 19 Dec 2011 23:14

JAX

Thank you for that 1901 information

Could I ask for the same person but on 1891 Census please!



I am hoping that Elizabeth Thomas is also nee Pritchard.

as her year / place of Birth is in the right area.

If it is Elizabeth then this is where she was with parents n siblings in 1881.

.
1881;16 Gauntlett Street.Linthorpe.Middlesbrough.North Yorkshire.
with parents David & Sarah pritchard.

Thank you
Linda. :-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 19 Dec 2011 23:06

Via the local index at: http://www.northeastbmd.org.uk/

Result Year Surname Forename Initial Ref Number Click to contact
1 1903 HAUGHEY PATRICK M-AA-J60-0-0046 Middlesbrough
2 1903 THOMAS ELIZABETH A M-AA-J60-0-0046 Middlesbrough



Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)
HALPIN Ann Keighley 9a 291
HAUGHEY Patrick Keighley 9a 291
Smith Joe Keighley 9a 291
WILSON Leah Keighley 9a 291

jax

jax Report 19 Dec 2011 23:00

1901 census - household transcription
Person: THOMAS, Jannet
Address: 92, Milbank Street, Middlesbrough



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THOMAS, Elizabeth Head Widow F 46 1855
Gateshead
Durham VIEW
THOMAS, Ethel Daughter Single F 10 1891
Middlesbro
Yorkshire VIEW
THOMAS, Jannet Daughter Single F 6 1895
Middlesbro
Yorkshire VIEW

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Linda

Linda Report 19 Dec 2011 22:45

nudge!

Linda

Linda Report 19 Dec 2011 22:44

nudge!

Linda

Linda Report 19 Dec 2011 22:10

Hi

Can I have a bit more help please!
I am following the above information by going through the female line of the above 1911 cencus.

Can someone again give me the information from GR 1901 census for the following please!

Thomas Jannet 1895 Yorks Middlesbro .Middlesbrough, Middlesbrough.

Thank you again.
Linda.

:-) :-)