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you are welcome :-D

Thank you so much Shirley - much appreciated
Gill

John Smith is just a boarder he is single and a retired Army pensioner.born Cain ?? Gloucestershire

the baby is just listed as infant daur aged 5 hours so not named yet. would say the baby had arrived by the time the enumerator called so was added as the last entry

The address is just Long Street

Can anyone tell me please in the 1901 - Agnes Trotman census above

Who is John Smith - what relationship to the head of house??

Is the 5hour / 5 month daughter the daughter of Agnes - ( she already has a 1 & 2 yr old )

and
Is there a street address please?

Many thanks

Marriages Jun 1893
Beard Robert Albert Dursley 6a 447
Beckerton Ellen Dursley 6a 447


1901

Name: Ellen Beard
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Beard
Gender: Female
Where born: Wotton Under Edge, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Cromhall
Ecclesiastical parish: Cromhall
Town: Cromhall Abbots
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Thornbury
Sub-registration district: Thornbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Piece: 2412
Folio: 109
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Beard 37
Ellen Beard 32
Charles C Beard 6
Winnifred M Beard 4
Elsie M Beard 3
Lily Beard 1 Daughter

So not that Lily

Births Sep 1899 Beard Lily Thornbury 6a 263


Marriages Jun 1898
Beckerton Agnes Dursley 6a 450a
TROTMAN George Alfred Dursley 6a 450a


Not with Agnes either

Name: Agnes A Trotman
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George A Trotman
Gender: Female
Where born: Wotton Under Edge, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Dursley
Ecclesiastical parish: Dursley St James and Woodmancote St Mark
Town: Dursley
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Dursley
Sub-registration district: Dursley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 28
Piece: 2416
Folio: 6
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
George A Trotman 26
Agnes A Trotman 27
George W Trotman 2
Victor V Trotman 1
John Smith 64
Infant Smith 5 Months <<< On image no surname given but says Daughter aged 5 hours.

I wonder .but it can only be a ??, whether she was in fact with William and Sarah but they didnt give her details because of the different surnames. Mind you they could have listed her as a Beckerton !!

She certainly doesnt show up on a type of search

Yes 4 separate listings

I think that if Ada was William's child she was more likely to be living with a relative in 1901 as opposed to the workhouse like Joseph's children. It may be that she is lurking in the 1901 with a different surname but I just can't see a possibility!

If this is William before he married Sarah then it looks like Ada was named for one of his sisters?

1881

Name: William Beckerton
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Beckerton
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Beckerton
Gender: Male
Where born: Wotton Under Edge, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Wotton Under Edge
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address: Brickyard
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Dursley
Sub-registration district: Wotton Under Edge
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2518
Folio: 79
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
George Beckerton 38
Elizabeth Beckerton 38
William Beckerton 14
Ellen Beckerton 12
Joseph Beckerton 10
Agnes Beckerton 8
James Beckerton 7
Ada Beckerton 4
John Beckerton 3



Have you looked for marriages for his sisters please? Have you found any of them in 1901 to see if Ada is there either as Ada or Lily?

Shirley - thank you SO much for looking -

I guess that Dyers Brook is a street then - and not just a house ( as I had thought )??
4 houses in Dyers Brook ( street) - is that correct please?

Thanks again
Gill

I think its area rather than a particular house as they are separate households

took a bit to find


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84 KNIGHT, Ann Head Widow F 78 1823
Kingswood
Gloucestershire VIEW
84 DERRETT, Lewis Lodger Widower M 81 1820
Wotton U Edge
Gloucestershire VIEW
84 ORCHARD, Louisa Lodger Single F 33 1868
Wotton U Edge
Gloucestershire VIEW

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85 PERRIN, Esther Head Single F 52 1849 Dressmaker
Leighterton
Gloucestershire VIEW

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86 BAILEY, George Head Married M 45 1856 Labourer
Wotton U Edge
Gloucestershire VIEW
86 BAILEY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 46 1855 Laundress
Wotton U Edge
Gloucestershire VIEW

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88 GAY, Sarah Head Widow F 65 1836 Innkeeper
West Kington
Wiltshire VIEW
88 ALLEN, William Grand Son Single M 16 1885 Fishmonger's Assistant
Leicester
Leicestershire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2414 Folio:
29 Page:
13

Sub District:
Wotton Under Edge Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mary the Virgin

Municipal Borough:
Address:
Dyer's Brook, Ludgate Hill, Wotton Under Edge County:
Gloucestershire

I have just had a thought


Is it possible please to find out who was living in Dyers Brook
( cottage / house) Wooton under Edge in 1901 census?

Ada lilys mum gave that as her address in 1900 when Ada was baptised

Many thanks

I think it is quite possible that she is in fact William Beckertons daughter - however, she was born Ada Lilly Workman and married as Ada Lilly Workman - father Joseph Workman deceased.

So - either she wasnt Williams daughter, but shown as such on the 1911 census ( whilst whe was school age )......and in fact her mother had had a relationship with someone uinknown after her husband, Joseph had died.

Or - she was in fact William Beckertons daughter - but her mother wasnt married to him until 2-3yrs after her birth - so leagally her name was still Workman ( she may have 're-invented' Joseph Workman )- her mothers 1st husband - just for the purpose of her wedding cert.........

I dont as yet know the answer. I'm afraid.

Still leaves the puzzle as to where she was in 1901 tho

On the 1911 she is recorded as William's daughter whereas Sarah's daughter from her marriage to Joseph is recorded as William's step daughter.

Yep - I have her birth cert and it gives no fathers name - so she was illigitimate.

I have no idea where she is in 1901. I know her mum and soon to be step-dad are in Alderley, W.u E. and her siblings are in the workhouse in Thornbury.

If this is Joseph's death and her is the father, then Sarah must have had a longer than normal pregnancy?

Deaths Jun 1897 Workman Joseph 38 Thornbury 6a 126

she isnt listed sorry

your 1911 census is not MY Ada Workman...

The family were re-united somewhere between 1901 & 1911 and they end up in Pontypridd, S.Wales.

Adas mum married William Beckerton in 1902 and Ada hasthe name Ada Beckerton in 1911 census

However - when she marries in 1919 in W.U.E and gives her name as Ada Lilly Workman - father Joseph Workman deceased.

so wrong census family posted will leave so others dont post the same ones.

same family 1901
WORKMAN, Alfred H Head Married M 26 1875 Oil Mills Pressman
Higham
Gloucestershire VIEW
WORKMAN, Gertrude C Wife Married F 28 1873
Newent
Gloucestershire VIEW
WORKMAN, William G Son M 5 1896
St Lukes
Gloucestershire VIEW
WORKMAN, Christina J Daughter F 3 1898
St Lukes
Gloucestershire VIEW
WORKMAN, Ada E Daughter F 2 1899
St Lukes
Gloucestershire VIEW
WORKMAN, Nellie G Daughter F 0 (5 MOS) 1901
St Lukes
Gloucestershire VIEW
GOODYER, George Father-In-Law Married M 64 1837 Gen Lab
Newent
Gloucestershire VIEW
GOODYER, Ann M Sister-In-Law Single F 18 1883
St Lukes
Gloucestershire VIEW

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Piece:
2431 Folio:
200 Page:
34 Registration District:
Gloucester

Civil Parish:
Gloucester Municipal Borough:
Address:
Seymour Road Tudor Street, Gloucester County:
Gloucestershire