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Hi there, could someone please look up my relation Grace Bage in 1901 and 1911. She married Alfred Bage in 1895 and I suspect he died in 1907.

Grace was born c. 1857 (place unknown).

Thank you!

Peter

which country?

surely you must have an idea? where did he die? how do you know about them?

you didn't just pick these names out of thin air - you must know more than you ar telling

Ah sorry! England and they married in Leeds, West Yorkshire.

???

parents: John Bage,? Leah


name: Alfred Bage
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 23 Nov 1885
baptism/christening place: Birkenshaw, York, England
birth date: 14 Oct 1885
father's name: John Bage
mother's name: Leah
indexing project (batch) number: C01304-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1542159

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name: Alfred Bage
age: 2
gender: M
birthplace: Beverley, Yorkshire
relationship to head of household: Son
record type: Household

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name: Grace Bage
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 44
relationship to head of household: Wife
birthplace: Leeds, Yorkshire
record type: Household
registration district: Bramley
sub-district: Wortley
ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
civil parish: Armley
county: Yorkshire (West Riding)

Hi, not sure if the baptism are relevent but the 1901 is.

Can you show the household?

why didn't you also tell us her maiden name??

Marriages Mar 1895 (>99%)

Bage Alfred Leeds 9b 400
Crosland Grace Leeds 9b 400



you know better!


Every little bit of information helps




sylvia

best I can come up with - sorry :-)

Sorry Sylvia - I am not doing good lately.

And thank you Ann.

Any sign of her in 1911?

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BAGE, Grace
Address: Becca Lane Aberford


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HELM, William Robert Head Married M 47 1864 Farmer Yorks Clayton West VIEW
HELM, Jennet Wife Married
18 years F 45 1866 Yorks Scholes VIEW
BAGE, Grace Sister In Law Widow F 53 1858 Helper Yorks Scholes VIEW
HELM, Charles Chester Nephew Single M 19 1892 Farmers Son Working On Farm Yorks Barwick in Elmet VIEW
CROSLAND, Grace Niece Single F 23 1888 Domestic Yorks Scholes VIEW
REED, Arthur Cyril Servant Single M 20 1891 Waggoner On Farm Yorks Riccall VIEW

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Peter


that's OK


I'll forgive you :-D



but that can help find out where she was born!



sylvia

1901 Census

Name: Grace Bage
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Alfred Bage
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Armley
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bramley
Sub-registration district: Wortley [Near Leeds]

Alfred Bage 50 b.ca 1851, Stockton on Lee, Yorkshire, engine Fitter
Grace Bage 44

Address:- 11 Claremont Street (I think)



I also think Alfred's birthplace might be Stockton on Tees, Durham, looking at earlier censuses.




sylvia

from ancestry


West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1922 about Alfred Bage

Name: Alfred Bage
Birth Year: abt 1849
Age: 46
Marriage or Bann Date: 23 Mar 1895
Parish: Burmantofts, St Agnes
Father's Name: Joseph Bage
Spouse's Name: Grace Crosland
Spouse's Father's Name: John Crosland


from image:-

Alfred:-

Widower
Occupation:- Machine Fitter
Address:- 6 Fraser Mount
Father occupation: Architect <<<<<<<< I think!

Grace:-

Age:- 38
Born:- ca 1857
Spinster
no occupation shown
Address:- 6 Fraser Mount
Father occupation:- Gentleman

Witnesses:- William Crosland and Lucy Bage



sylvia

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West Yorkshire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 about Alfred Bage

Name: Alfred Bage
Birth Year: abt 1855
Parish: Holbeck and New Wortley
Burial Date: 30 Mar 1907
Burial Age: 52

from image:-

Abode:- Armley



sylvia

?????????? Alfred in 1881

1881 Census

Name: Alfred Bage
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockton On Tees, Durham, England

Civil parish: Hulme
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 5 Rial St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Engineer

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme

John Cowan 49
Jane Cowan 35
Alexander Cowan 10
James H. Cowan 7
Helen L. Cowan 4
Catherine H. Cowan
Alfred Bage 28
Francis Bage 23 b.ca 1858, Selby, Yorkshire


????? Alfred in 1891 ..... except he says he is Single (although that might be an assumption by the Head of the house

1891 Census

Name: Alfred Bage
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: Hulme
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme

Andrew Simmington 64
Elizabeth Simmington 68
Helen Simmington 36
Helen Simmington 9
Herbert Simmington 5
Mary Lawson 13
Alfred Bage 39 Fitter

Address:- 132 Emsden Street


???

Deaths Jun 1891 (>99%)

Bage Frances 53 Bradford, Y. 9b 171




sylvia

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1861 Census

Name: Alfred Bage
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Bage
Mother's Name: Ann Bage
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockton, Durham, England

Civil parish: Stockton On Tees
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Stockton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Stockton

Joseph Bage 50 b.ca 1811, Barm, Yorkshire, Joiner
Ann Bage 49
Emma Bage 12
Jane Ellen Bage 10
Alfred Bage 8
Eliza Bage 5
Elizabeth Wilson 4

Address:- 5 Skinner Street





sylvia

Historical Records

Alfred Bage
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 21 Aug 1853 Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, England
residence: Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, England
parents: Joseph Bage, Ann Bage



sylvia

??????? Grace in 1891?????????


1891 Census

Name: Grace Crosland
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Crosland
Gender: Female
Where born: Scholes, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Barwick in Elmet
Ecclesiastical parish: Barwick in Elmet
Town: Scholes
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Tadcaster
Sub-registration district: Aberford

John Crosland 61 b.ca 1830, Scholes, Yorkshire, Widower, Farmer
Grace Crosland 34
John Crosland 27
Jennete Crosland 25

Address:- Scholes Hall


and the family in 1881

1881 Census

Name: Grace Crosland
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Crosland
Mother's Name: Jane Musgrave Crosland
Gender: Female
Where born: Scholes, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Barwick in Elmet
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Scholes Hall

Occupation: Farmers Daughter

Registration district: Tadcaster
Sub-registration district: Aberford

John Crosland 51
Jane Musgrave Crosland 57
Laurence Crosland 28
William Crosland 26
Grace Crosland 24
John Crosland 17
Jennette Crosland 15




and the same family in 1871


1871 Census

Name: Grace Crosland
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Crosland
Mother's Name: Jane M Crosland
Gender: Female
Where born: Barwick in Elmet, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Barwick in Elmet
Ecclesiastical parish: Barwick in Elmet
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Tadcaster
Sub-registration district: Aberford

John Crosland 41 b.ca 1830, Barwick in Elmet, Yorkshire, Landowner (Farmer of 103 acres, employing 1 Lab. and 3 sons)
Jane M Crosland 46 b.ca 1825, Leeds, Yorkshire
Arthur Crosland 20
Laurence Crosland 18
William Crosland 16
Grace Crosland 14
John Crosland 7
Jennette Crosland 5
Jane Crosland 2
Mary Winn 56 Visitor
Thomas C Halton 44 Cousin, Currier (out of employ.)
Ann Spence 12 Domestic Servant

Address:- Scholes




sylvia

Thank you everyone for this help, and Sylvia thank you! Much appreciated.

Alfred Bage and Annie Featherstone first married in 1871 in Newcastle (I suspect an elopement). They had three children and by 1881, these three children had been farmed out to maternal relatives (and a neighbour of their grandparents). In 1881 Annie is working as a domestice servent in Stockton-on-Tees (and you have found who I suspect to be Alfred in the 1881 and 1891).

In 1885 Annie had an illegitimate son, George, in Norton, near Stockton. Her husband to be, Nathaniel Wood had moved to Stockton c. 1879 with his family. The couple married in Middlesbrough in 1888, Annie stating she was a widow. In 1889, their son Henry and George were both baptised under Nathaniel's double barrelled name of Langburn Wood.

So, without a death record for Alfred prior to 1888, I suspect both Annie and Alfred became bigamists.

RE the 1871 marriage to Annie Featherstone and the 1895 marriage to Grace Crosland.

Ages are roughly correct in both for Alfred Bage as are his father's name of Joseph. However, I do know Alfred's father Joseph, died in Stockton Workhouse. He was a joiner. Not an architect as is mentioned on the 1895 marriage. Also, the signatures are very different on the 1871 marriage and the 1895 ... did Alfred reinvent himself, or am I jumping to conclusions of bigamy?!

Opinions are much appreciated!

Thank you again to everyone who has given information here.