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Jane Elizabeth Cottrell

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Janet

Janet Report 1 Nov 2011 19:44

Can anyone help in finding marriage details of Jane Elizabeth Cottrell and William Taylor. I have a birth certificate for William Charles Taylor b1876 in Bermondsey, London which states that the parents were William Taylor and Jane Elizabeth Taylor nee Cottrell. Unfortunately, I do not know where Jane or William were born but he was a Commercial Traveller in 1876 which narrows it down a bit! As mentioned earlier, they were in Bermondsey in 1876 and my father was also born there in 1918.

jax

jax Report 1 Nov 2011 20:14

Do you have them on any census together?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Nov 2011 20:17

Did William Charles marry ?

Witnessess any relatives

Julie

Julie Report 1 Nov 2011 20:23

looks like she might of been marriage before


Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
Cottrell Jane Elizabeth Lambeth 1d 525
Lawson William Lambeth 1d 525
SPICER Jane Lambeth 1d 525
TROTT William Parkhouse Lambeth 1d 525

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Nov 2011 20:26

Might jane have been married or widowed when she met William?

Marriages Dec 1860
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Adams Sophia Newington 1d 294
>>>>Cottrell Jane Elizabeth Newington 1d 294
Humbly Henry Newington 1d 294
HUMBY Henry Newington 1d 294
KING Henry James Newington 1d 294

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Nov 2011 20:28

Looking at the 1872 marriage then Jane Elizabeth Cottrell married William Trott

Janet

Janet Report 1 Nov 2011 20:34

Thanks everyone.

I do not have William and Jane on any census records. As William Charles was born in 1867 and his birth certificate reads Jane Elizabeth Taylor, nee Cottrell, I am assuming that they married before the birth of W.C.T. Unfortunately, I do not have a marriage certificate for William Charles Taylor to Sarah Cunningham (not my paternal Grandmother) but perhaps that should be my next port of call. The only problem is that it will just say father William Taylor and his occupation.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 1 Nov 2011 20:36

1876 or 1867 two different dates

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Nov 2011 20:37

Name: William Charles Taylor
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Spouse Name: Sarah Ann Cunningham
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 22 Dec 1889
Parish: St Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Isaac Taylor
Spouse Father Name: John Jos Cunningham - cook

can't make out occupations of William Charles and William Isaac, might be leather dresser?

Witnesses John Cunningham and Sophia Hooper Shorpe

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Nov 2011 20:43

A sibling?

Name: Ernest John Taylor
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1873
Baptism Date: 22 Jan 1873
Father's Name: William Isaac Taylor
Mother's Name: Jane Elizabeth Taylor
Parish or Poor Law Union: Greenwich St Alphege
Borough: Greenwich

Born 4th jan 1873 Father a line worker

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Nov 2011 20:45

1881?

TAYLOR, William I Head Married M 44 1837 Zinc Worker Master Employing 2 Men 2 Boys Greenwich Kent
TAYLOR, Jane E Wife Married F 38 1843 Hackney Middlesex
TAYLOR, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar Greenwich Kent
TAYLOR, William C Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar Greenwich Kent
TAYLOR, Ellen L Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Greenwich Kent
TAYLOR, Arthur I Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Greenwich Kent
TAYLOR, Alice M Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar Greenwich Kent
TAYLOR, Rosa A Daughter Single F 1 1880 Greenwich Kent
TAYLOR, Frederick Son Single M 0 1881 Greenwich Kent
WILLIAMS, Martha Servant Single F 16 1865 General Servt London Middlesex
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Registration District: Greenwich
Civil Parish: Greenwich

Address: 21, Trafalgar Rd, Greenwich County: London, Kent

EDIT: Perhaps not, but will leave if only for elimination.

Janet

Janet Report 1 Nov 2011 20:45

Thank you Kucinta.

Yes, you have the right William Charles marry Sarah Ann Cunningham. At least I know that the father's name was William Isaac which is a great help.

jax

jax Report 1 Nov 2011 20:48

Oh 1867 now ??

Please could you check what you have posted either before you submit or soon after so people do not waste their time looking for the wrong people

Julie

Julie Report 1 Nov 2011 20:51

Going by Williams middle name this one came up but Jane's surname is Brown


Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%)
BROWN Jane Elizabeth Greenwich 1d 1054
RICKARD William Greenwich 1d 1054
Rundel Mary Grace Greenwich 1d 1054
TAYLOR William Isaac Greenwich 1d 1054

Astra

Astra Report 1 Nov 2011 20:51

William Isaac Taylor
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Spouse Name: Jane Elizabeth Brown
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 14 Nov 1867
Parish: St Alphege, Greenwich
County: Kent
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: William Walker Taylor
Spouse Father Name: Nathaniel John Brown

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 1 Nov 2011 21:22

1851 census transcription details for: 43, St Peters Street, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets

RG number: HO107 Piece: 1539 Folio: 519 Page: 26

Reg. District: Bethnal Green Sub District: Hackney Road

BROWN, Mathe Jno Head Married M 37 1814 Solicitor Managing Clerk
White Chapel
Middlesex
BROWN, Jane Wife Married F 37 1814
White Chapel
Middlesex
BROWN, Jane Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1844 Scholar
Shoreditch
Middlesex
BROWN, Anne Eliza Daughter F 6 1845 Scholar
Bethnal Green
Middlesex
BROWN, Alice Emma Daughter F 4 1847 Scholar
Bethnal Green
Middlesex
BROWN, Elizabeth Mother Widow F 64 1787 Annuitant
Pershore
Worcestershire
KELTING, Eliza Visitor Unmarried F 22 1829 Dress Maker
White Chapel
Middlesex


Maureen

Janet

Janet Report 2 Nov 2011 17:11

Please accept my sincere apologies - in my original post I said that William Charles Taylor was born in 1876 when it should have read 1867.

The info on his marriage to Sarah Cunningham is correct.

I am not too sure about the 1881 census as it says his birth is 1871 not 1867.

My only thought is that William and Jane were quite old when they had William Charles. If it was Jane's second marriage, would she have used her maiden name or her married name on the marriage certofate, ie Brown?

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 2 Nov 2011 17:38

Jane's father is given as Nathaniel John Brown in the marriage details and she also claims to be a spinster.

Nathaniel John Brown was a witness.

William Isaac Taylor is a plumber.

Janet

Janet Report 2 Nov 2011 17:43

Hi Kucinta

I think we can rule Jane Brown out as the birth certificate for W.C.T. in 1867 states mother's maiden name was Cottrell.

Thanks for your input.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 2 Nov 2011 17:54

Maybe they didn't actually marry because they couldn't - one or both of them might have been married before, and had a spouse still living.

I posted this one earlier:

Marriages Dec 1860
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Adams Sophia Newington 1d 294
>>>>Cottrell Jane Elizabeth Newington 1d 294
Humbly Henry Newington 1d 294
HUMBY Henry Newington 1d 294
KING Henry James Newington 1d 294