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Hello

Well it lookds like my brick wall has beaten you all, if you can not find any info, it means I have know chance, but thanks so much for trying


Regards Marj

OH yes Martha married her mothers Border Benjamin Harris

Marj

This is my Grt Grandparents and this is the same info i have on their marrige lines


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about William Moloney Name: William Moloney
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Spouse Name: Eliza Buckhurst
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 15 Jan 1883
Parish: Christ Church, Camberwell
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Anthony Moloney
Spouse Father Name: Robert Buckhurst

He signs his own name and it's definitely Moloney. He'a a customs house officer, address 850 Old Kent Rd., father is a bootmaker.

The tree on Ancestry is my Cousin Patricks tree and I have told him its wrong as he has William being born in 1861 which would make him make him 22 and its the wrong father, he really must change that, and soon

Martha married in 1912 to a Benjamin Harris, Potty so maybe she was working away from home as on her marrgie lines she lives at 5 Gallenfivall Road ?? as far as I can make out

BUT I have all this info its Williams George Anthony Parents I can not find all I know is his farthers name accordin to the marrige certiici is its Anthony Moloney sh who is his mother

Thanks so far for all your help

Marj :-D

Well done, Choccy - but I wonder where Martha was:

Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
Moloney Martha Camberwell 1d 944

All the children seem to have been registered as Moloney.

There is a tree on Ancestry for the family - there is a picture of Eliza Buckhurst's birth cert but no sourced info on William, although his POB is given as Marylebone; parents John Moloney and Margaret Hart but the marriage cert gives his father as Anthony.

Possible death for William - but if it is him, he could not have been Martha's father:

Deaths Jun 1886 (>99%)

Moloney William 43 Camberwell 1d 480

doesn't help but here's Eliza in 1911


LEWIS, Harry Head Married M 37 1874 Timber Porter Durham VIEW
LEWIS, Eliza Wife Married
15 years F 48 1863 Washer At Laundry Islington VIEW
MOLENEY, Martha Stepdaughter Single F 21 1890 Biscuit Packer Camberwell VIEW
LEWIS, Joseph Walter Son M 14 1897 Cork Presser Camberwell VIEW
HARRIS, Benjamin Boarder Single M 22 1889 Oil Refiner Walworth VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1894 Reference:
RG14PN1894 RG78PN67 RD24 SD2 ED26 SN126

Registration District:
St Olave (Bermondsey) Sub District:
Bermondsey Enumeration District:
26 Parish:
Bermondsey

Address:
392 Rotherhithe New Road S E County:
London

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1891


MALONEY, Eliza Mother Widow F 28 1863 Laundress
Islington
London VIEW
MALONEY, Eliza Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Greenwich
Kent VIEW
MALONEY, William Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Camberwell
London VIEW
MALONEY, Henry Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Camberwell
London VIEW
MALONEY, Elizabeth D Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Camberwell
London VIEW

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Piece:
483 Folio:
12 Page:
16 Registration District:
Camberwell

Civil Parish:
Camberwell Municipal Borough:
Address:
9, Vaughan Place, Camberwell, Peckham County:
London

Is this the family in 1901 - Eliza is a widow.

1901 England Census
about Eliza E Moloney
Name: Eliza E Moloney
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Islington, London, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 117
Piece: 522
Folio: 16
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza E Moloney 38
Eliza Moloney 19
William G Moloney 19 - 17 on image.
Henry R Moloney 16
Elizabeth Moloney 15
Thomas Moloney 12
Martha Moloney 11

Eliza jnr born Greenwich; all other children b Camberwell

Is this one of their children - cannot yet find them on any census. William's occupation is given as Engineer's labourer - a bit different to the marriage:

Name: Constance Isabella Maloney
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1897
Baptism Date: 17 Nov 1897
Father's Name: William Maloney
Mother's Name: Eliza Maloney
Parish or Poor Law Union: Southwark Christ Church
Borough: Southwark

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about William Moloney Name: William Moloney
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Spouse Name: Eliza Buckhurst
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 15 Jan 1883
Parish: Christ Church, Camberwell
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Anthony Moloney
Spouse Father Name: Robert Buckhurst

He signs his own name and it's definitely Moloney. He'a a customs house officer, address 850 Old Kent Rd., father is a bootmaker.

OK, spelled Moloney here:

Marriages Mar 1883 (>99%)
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BUCKHURST Eliza Camberwell 1d 889
Moloney William Camberwell 1d 889

No wonder we couldn't find the marriage - it under Moloney!

Sorry, Margee, must have missed your post asking about the marriage!

Marjorie,

Please can you give us all the info you have about William George: who were his children and where and when were they born. We can then try to find him on the census after his marriage, which should give us his year and place of birth to find him on previous censuses.

If you already have him on a census, could you please give us all the info from that census.

Hi all

William married Eliza Emily Buckhurst on 15 Jan 1883 in Christ Church in the parish of Camberwell, they both lived at 850 Old Kent Road gives Williams father as Anthony Maloney and Eliza's father as Robert Buckhurst, and I am sure it give Williams age as 38 its not a good copy, William died before 1902 as Eliza married again

If Anthony'swife was not Ellen i have not any idea who it could be as I say its one big brick wall

Marj

That's the question I asked, Potty, because the only marriage that I could find was that one in Chorlton. There seems to be a birth there of William that would match too.

Just realised that the family lived in London, so probably not the marriage in Chorlton. Who did William G A marry and where?

This is the only William Maloney marriage I can find in 1883 - no mention of his other names:

from freebmd

Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)

BARROW Thomas Chorlton 8c 1011
HOBIN Catherine Alice Chorlton 8c 1011
MALONEY Wiliam Chorlton 8c 1011
MALONEY William Chorlton 8c 1011
WATSON Mary Chorlton 8c 1011

from lancsbmd:

MALONEY William WATSON Mary Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registar Attended Manchester

1851 same family as Andy posted for 1841
Name: Anthony Mallony
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Lodger
Spouse's Name: Ellen Mallony
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Westminster St James
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: St James Westminster
Sub-registration district: St Jamess Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 49
Piece: 1484
Folio: 243
Page Number: 21


Think the occupation is messenger

On the marriage that Andrew posted of Anthony Maloney & Ellen Nally, Anthony is just a labourer, not a bootmaker.

Where did William George Anthony marry? And to whom?

Hello GlitterBaby

Its really a shot in the dark as there are not a lot of Anthony Maloneys in London, and there were the family lived, in one of my grt Aunts stilllived in the same house when i was 12 yrs old


Marj