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emily cooper born 1855 liverpool

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milly

milly Report 19 Oct 2011 20:45

Would like some help please, finding birth of
emily cooper b 1855 liverpool
her father was thomas cooper, labourer,
dont know mother's name
she was age 23 whem married in 1878
i have 2 birth certs 1854 8b 153 & 1855 8b163 neither match
would be most gratefull for any help/advice given.
thanks in advance
milly

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Oct 2011 20:54

You don't say who she married but is this her ?

Household:1881

Patrick WHELAN Head M Male 27 Ireland Dock Laborer
Emily WHELAN Wife M Female 26 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Margaret WHELAN Daur Female 2 Liverpool, Lancashire, England


Dwelling 73 St Martins Cott
Census Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Oct 2011 20:56

As none of the likely births turn out to be right, she may have been born with a different surname and mother married afterwards.
It's not uncommon for someone to take on a stepfather's name

milly

milly Report 19 Oct 2011 20:59

thanks mike
sorry forgot to put patrick on, this is her, also have her on 1891 1901 census in dryden st bootle

milly

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Oct 2011 21:02

Who were the witnesses on the marriage cert ? ( sometimes related)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Oct 2011 21:04

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Catholic Marriages, 1754-1921

Name: Emily Cooper, of Opie Street ??
Marriage Date: 24 Nov 1878
Parish: St Augustine (Augustini)
Spouse's Name: Patricium Whelan, of Carlton Street
Father's Name: Thomae Cooper
Spouse Father's Name: Michaelis Whelan

Witnesses: Edward Kennedy of Evylan Street and Sara Nolan of Buckingham Street

(Apologies if I've mis-transcribed addresses)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2011 21:05

from ancestry


is this her marriage?

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Catholic Marriages, 1754-1921 about Emily Cooper

Name: Emily Cooper
Marriage Date: 24 Nov 1878
Parish: St Augustine (Augustini)
Spouse's Name: Patricium Whelan
Father's Name: Thomae Cooper
Spouse Father's Name: Michaelis Whelan

from image:-

Patrick
Address:- Carlton Street

Emily
Address:- Opis (??Opie) Street

Witnesses:- Eduardo Kennedy of Evylan (??sp) Street, and Sara Nolan of Buckingham Street




sylvia

milly

milly Report 19 Oct 2011 21:05

witnesses were edward kennedy and sarah nolan but dont know as yet any connection

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2011 21:07

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Catholic Confirmations, 1813-1920 about Emily Cooper

Name: Emily Cooper
Confirmation Date: 26 May 1867
Parish: St Anthony´s



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2011 21:08

No father named on confirmation page.


She was given the name Maria on confirmation




sylvia

milly

milly Report 19 Oct 2011 21:13

thanks sylvia han't spotted the confirmation
and thanks everyone for help
milly

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2011 21:21

Have you ruled out this one??


1871 Census

Name: Emily Cooper
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Margaret Cooper
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool
Civil parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park

Margaret Cooper 36
Emily Cooper 15 Cigar Maker
James Cooper 13 Tin Smith

Address:- 71 Conway Street





sylvia

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Oct 2011 21:24

Someone on Ancestry has this 1871 census attached to her, don't know if it's right or not:

COOPER, Margaret Wife F 36 1835 London
COOPER, Emily Daughter F 15 1856 Lancashire < Cigar maker, b Liverpool
COOPER, James Son M 13 1858 Lancashire < Tin smith

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Registration District: West Derby
Civil Parish: Everton
Municipal Borough: Liverpool

Address: Conway Street, Everton, Liverpool County: Lancashire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Oct 2011 21:26

Sylvia - we must stop meeting like this!

milly

milly Report 19 Oct 2011 21:27

not altogether sylvia but was waiting on the birth certificats hoping to confirm mothers name, thanks

milly

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2011 21:27

:-D :-D :-D

milly

milly Report 19 Oct 2011 21:29

thanks marie celeste will check on that
milly

Choccy

Choccy Report 19 Oct 2011 21:35



1871

COOPER, Margaret Wife F 36 1835 London VIEW
COOPER, Emily Daughter F 15 1856 Lancashire VIEW
COOPER, James Son M 13 1858 Lancashire VIEW

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Piece:
3814 Folio:
49 Page:
41 Registration District:
West Derby

Civil Parish:
Everton Municipal Borough:
Liverpool Address:
Conway Street, Everton, Liverpool County:
Lancashire



this could be the same family in 1861 - now Ellen


1861

COPPER, Thomas Head Married M 30 1831 Dock Labourer
Ireland VIEW
COPPER, Margaret Wife Married F 28 1833
London
Middlesex VIEW
COPPER, Ellen Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
COPPER, James Son M 3 1858
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW

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Piece:
2657 Folio:
167 Page:
68 Registration District:
Liverpool

Civil Parish:
Liverpool Municipal Borough:
Liverpool Address:
13, Snowdon Street, Liverpool County:
Lancashire

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Oct 2011 21:38

well found, choccy!

milly

milly Report 19 Oct 2011 21:45

thanks choccy possible as ellen is a family name

milly