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Stuart
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13 Oct 2011 19:12 |
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Does anyone have access to Canadian records? I am trying to find the birth of my grandfather known as Edwin aka Evan McPherson born 1873. His father was William McPherson unfortunately do not know wife's name. Any help would be appreciated as I am really struggling.
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Clare
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13 Oct 2011 19:24 |
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The only possible match I can see is a Robert E Mcpherson. Father is William Mcpherson, mother Isabella smith both of Scotland. Robert E died 28 May 1934. Does this sound possible?
Clare
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mgnv
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13 Oct 2011 19:31 |
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Like the UK, Canada has no national BMD registration. In Canada's case, it's a provincial responsibility, so you need to know which province had jurisdiction.
The census is available (with free images) from 1871 on via the links at: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-911.009-e.html
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WayneTracey
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13 Oct 2011 19:31 |
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Possibly him?
Name: Evan McPHERSON Year of Record: 1901 Source/Event: 1901 Census of Canada: Province of Quebec (Extraction of those who where born outside of Canada and have given a year of immigration to Canada) Comments: immigrated to Canada in 1888 Age: 28 Reference: National Archives of Canada: Microfilm Reel No. T-6523, District 155 - Hochelaga, Sub-District D1 - Westmount, City, page 11
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chrissiex
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13 Oct 2011 19:36 |
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for birth records you need to know what province, all vital statistics are recorded on a province by province basis
only some provinces have searchable databases on line
the 1881 census is free at familysearch.org but the site is down now when I try
at Ancestry I don't see an Edwin or Evan to match that birthdate in the 1881 census
you need to give more information that you have to help identify him
might he be this person in the 1901 census in Hochelaga Quebec ?
McPherson Evan M Head M Jan 1 1873 28 McPherson Mary F Wife M Dec 8 1873 27 McPherson Amelia F Daughter S Apr 29 1897 3
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.jsp
free access to 1901 and 1911 censuses
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WayneTracey
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13 Oct 2011 19:37 |
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Did Evan died in 1938?
I have found a possible newspaper clipping for him :-)
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MarieCeleste
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13 Oct 2011 20:27 |
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Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Evan Macpherson Gender: Male Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Date of Arrival: Apr 1881 Vessel: Manitoban Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland Roll: C-4511
Hard to read, but it looks like the people he was travelling with were:
Andrew?? 34, a mechanic June (Janet?) 29 Marion 6
This matches the record WayneTracey found but not sure if it's the right chap?
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Clare
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13 Oct 2011 21:00 |
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1891 census in canada Name: Evan Macpherson Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Age: 18 Birth Year: abt 1873 Birthplace: Scotland Relation to Head of House: Fils (Son) Religion: Free Church French Canadian: No Father's Birth Place: Scotland Mother's Birth Place: Scotland Province: Quebec District Number: 154 District: Hochelaga Subdistrict: Ste Cunégonde Town
Andrew Macpherson 45 Jessie Macpherson 40 Evan Macpherson 18 Marie Anne Macpherson 16
This Evan's father is obviously not William, so I guess it is not the right one
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Stuart
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15 Oct 2011 16:30 |
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Hi Clare As you say this is not the correct one Thanks Lynda McPherson
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Stuart
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15 Oct 2011 16:38 |
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MarieCeleste This is not the correct one thanks Lynda McPherson
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chrissiex
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15 Oct 2011 18:24 |
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Stuart if you would tell us what you know about your grandfather ... that we obviously do not ?
there is no point in people guessing at censuses etc
where did he live in Canada ??
what was his wife's name, did he have children by 1911 ?
where and when did he die ?
if he was married ( had children ) by 1911 it should be possible to find them in a census one way or another
it's been explained that birth marriage death records have to be searched for by province
without knowing what province he lived in, nobody can help at all really ...
you have marked a post in this thread as 'answered' ... this business is confusing for many people ... what the 'answered' means is that your question has been answered, so other people don't need to look at your thread anymore
it would be a good idea to 'untick' that post, the first reply in the thead ... you will see something like 'mark as unanswered' at the top of the post, click there ( the rest of us can't see what you should tick as only you can tick posts in your own thread )
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Stuart
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16 Oct 2011 17:17 |
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Cjrissiex Thanks for your help, fairly new to this and find it confusing. I have very little information and no one to ask. I am doing this for my husband. We do not know where his grandfather was born, cannot find any birth for him in England or Scotland. This is all info I have- I have copy of marriage certifcate for Edwin aka Evan McPherson dated 28/4/18, bachelor, aged 45, profession shown as Seaman, father's name William Macpherson, surname can be spelt either way. I do not know if he was born in Canada, just trying. Only know that he was in England when he married in April 1918. My father in law was born in Dec 1918, named Evan Cluny McPherson, father's name shown as Evan McPherson,profession Able Seaman, wife's name is Ellen Eliza McPherson who was a widow. With regards to William I have no details. Hope you can give so suggestions. Thanks for interest. Lynda McPherson
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chrissiex
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16 Oct 2011 21:58 |
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mmm ... it is really nice to know if something is a guess and not a known fact ! the odds are that he didn't come from Canada ... but it's possible that he did and was in the Canadian navy in WWI maybe ...
this is the only thing the 1881 Canadian census shows for the name with father William
William MCPHERSON M Male Scottish 50 Nova Scotia Miller Church of Scotland Catherine MCPHERSON M Female Scottish 48 Nova Scotia Church of Scotland Even A MCPHERSON Male Scottish 21 Nova Scotia Teacher Church of Scotland William F MCPHERSON Male Scottish 17 Nova Scotia -Son Church of Scotland Daniel MCPHERSON Male Scottish 15 Nova Scotia Son Church of Scotland Hugh MCPHERSON Male Scottish 13 Nova Scotia Church of Scotland Robert MCPHERSON Male Scottish 11 Nova Scotia Church of Scotland Sarah MCPHERSON Female Scottish 8 Nova Scotia Church of Scotland Census Place McLennan's Mountain, Pictou, Nova Scotia
and that Evan is too old and the occupations don't match
is there an occupation for the father on the marriage certificate ?
do you have his death information ... would this be him ?
Name: Evan Mcpherson Birth Date: abt 1865 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1941 Age at Death: 76 Registration district: Shoreditch Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 132
his name is spelt Mac on the marriage
Marriages Jun 1918 Barker Ellen E Macpherson Poplar 1c 635 MacPherson Edwin Barker Poplar 1c 635
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MarieCeleste
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17 Oct 2011 19:25 |
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Lynda - whereabouts did that 1918 wedding take place?
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chrissiex
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17 Oct 2011 20:05 |
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hi Marie Celeste, Lynda ( sorry, not Stuart ) said
'Ellen Eliza McPherson who was a widow'
so I assumed the marriage at the bottom of my previous post
Marriages Jun 1918 Barker Ellen E Macpherson Poplar 1c 635 MacPherson Edwin Barker Poplar 1c 635
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chrissiex
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17 Oct 2011 20:08 |
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hold on, isn't this too much of a coincidence in the 1911 census ?
MAPHERSON EVAN CLUNY 1869 42 Willesden Middlesex
that was his son's name, Evan Cluny Mcpherson
( luckily I searched for e*n m*pherson ! )
living with
MAPHERSON MINNIE LAURA 1869 42 MAPHERSON LAURIE 1891 20 MAPHERSON DONALD 1894 17 MAPHERSON MARJORIE CLAIRE 1897 14 MAPHERSON NIGEL 1909 2
it looks to me like Evan aka Edwin because maybe he was a bigamist !
Marriages Mar 1891 Macpherson Evan Cluny Hendon 3a 247 Taylor Minnie Laurie Hendon 3a 247
Deaths Sep 1935 ? MacPherson Minnie L 68 Newton 8c 148
something mistranscribed in the reg details, here is the correct one from Ancestry
Name: Minnie L Macpherson Birth Date: abt 1867 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1935 Age at Death: 68 Registration district: Newton Abbot Inferred County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 148
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MarieCeleste
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17 Oct 2011 20:12 |
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Yes, sorry, not very good at reading large posts! (slinks off to naughty step for not paying attention properly)
But, if it's any help, Ellen Barker's maiden name was Wheeler (from cert on Ancestry - her father was John Wheeler, deceased, labourer)
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MarieCeleste
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17 Oct 2011 20:14 |
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MAPHERSON, Evan Cluny Head Married 21 years M 42 1869 Architect Camden Town MAPHERSON, Minnie Laura Wife Married 21 years F 42 1869 New Market MAPHERSON, Laurie Daughter Single F 20 1891 Westminster MAPHERSON, Donald Son Single M 17 1894 Architect Assistant Westminster MAPHERSON, Marjorie Claire Daughter Single F 14 1897 Streatham Hill MAPHERSON, Nigel Son M 2 1909 Willesden Green -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration District: Willesden Sub District: Willesden Enumeration District: 76 Parish: Willesden Address: 12 Staverton Road Brondesbury Park County: Middlesex
The 4 children were the only born.
(It's MacPherson on original - will submit correction)
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MarieCeleste
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17 Oct 2011 20:22 |
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: Evan Cluny Macpherson Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1891 Registration district: Hendon Inferred County: Middlesex Volume Number: 3a Page Number: 247
Married Minnie Laurie Taylor
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chrissiex
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17 Oct 2011 20:23 |
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yes I put the marriage in my post :-)
hmm, well the name is still a big coincidence but the occupation doesn't match much
unless there was scandal and he ran off to sea !
it would be really nice to have some answers
like when and where Evan/Edwin and wife Ellen died ... so we can see what info is on the death records ...
edit, looks like maybe two different people but surely related somehow
Name: Evan C Macpherson Birth Date: abt 1865 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1955 Age at Death: 90 Registration district: North Bucks Inferred County: Buckinghamshire Volume: 6a Page: 370
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