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1908 marriage - Copperwheat/Bottoms

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William

William Report 13 Oct 2011 16:51

Would you wonderful clever folks help me out with marriage details please?
My head is spinning as my tree has took a turn about with family change in 1911 census.
Thomas Copperwheat (b circa 1859, Wootton Green, Beds) remarries a Ann (Berthia) Bottoms (b c 1858 Frome, Som) in Oct qtr 1908 at Wandsworth (Vol 1D - 1033 according to GR). In the census she has two sons living with them, Ernest John Bottoms b 1901 & Frank Leonard George Bottoms b 1903 both Silsoe, Beds. I cannot trace Ann prior to 1911 so far.
Thomas Copperwheat in 1901 was married to Elizabeth M (nee Bird) b 1860 Wootton Green Beds. They had 3 children, Geo W 1884, William J 1886 & Sarah A1889 b Wootton. I've found George W in 1911, married with a son. No trace of the others though.
Any thoughts or info appreciated before I add anything to this puzze.
I shall prepare to be amazed!

jax

jax Report 13 Oct 2011 16:57

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1901

Name: Annie Bottoms
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Leonard Bottoms
Gender: Female
Where born: Frome, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Silsoe
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Silsoe
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Ampthill
Sub-registration district: Shillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 1501
Folio: 64
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Leonard Bottoms 57
Annie Bottoms 43
Charles Bottoms 25
Selina Bottoms 22
Edward Bottoms 1
Mary A Eells 19
Frederick Eells 16
Alice Eells 13
Annie Eells 8
Tomas Eells 6
William Blunt 13


jansmith

jansmith Report 13 Oct 2011 16:58

marriage cert is on ancestry
Name: Thomas Copperwheat
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Spouse Name: Ann Bethia Bottoms
Spouse Age: 49
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 04 Oct 1908
Parish: St Nicholas, Tooting Graveney
County: Surrey
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Thomas Copperwheat
Spouse Father Name: William Garbury

jax

jax Report 13 Oct 2011 16:58

Births Sep 1901 (>99%)
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Bottoms Ernest John Ampthill 3b 368

jax

jax Report 13 Oct 2011 17:00

Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%)
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Bottoms Leonard Wandsworth 1d 954
Eells Ann Bertha Wandsworth 1d 954


Name: Leonard Bottoms
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Spouse Name: Ann Bethia Eells
Spouse Age: 41
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 16 Apr 1899
Parish: St George the Martyr, Battersea
County: Surrey
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: George Bottoms
Spouse Father Name: William Yerbury

jax

jax Report 13 Oct 2011 17:02

1891

Name: Annie Eells
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Eells
Gender: Female
Where born: Frome, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Georges
Town: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: East Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 426
Folio: 47
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Eells 40
Annie Eells 33
William H Eells 15
Mary A Eells 10
Frederick G Eells 6
Isabella A Eells 3
Kate Emile Eells 1
Esther L Seran 28
John Seran 33
Emma E Seran 5 Months


jax

jax Report 13 Oct 2011 17:04

Marriages Jun 1875 (>99%)
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EELLS Thomas Wandsworth 1d 748
Herbery Ann Bethia Wandsworth 1d 748

Name: Ann Bethia Herbery
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Spouse Name: Thomas Eells
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 09 May 1875
Parish: St George the Martyr, Battersea
County: Surrey
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: William Herbery
Spouse Father Name: William Eells

William

William Report 13 Oct 2011 17:08

Thanks so much, like an express train on here!
I thought Ann was married before as 1911 shows a Louisa Anne 'Eilbs' 18 b Battersea also at that address noted as daughter. I can see now where it fits in.
I just need to solve what happened to 1st wife Elizabeth M & his other two children. So far they haven't showed up on my radar.
Thanks so very mucu for all the help. You are stars

jax

jax Report 13 Oct 2011 17:19

Maybe they divorced? cannot see a death

jax

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Oct 2011 17:34

Deaths Dec 1907 (>99%) ?
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COPPERWHEATE Elizabeth M 47 Ampthill 3b 197

Chris :)

jax

jax Report 13 Oct 2011 17:39

well done Chris :-)

jax

jax Report 13 Oct 2011 17:50

1861

Name: Ann Yerbury
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary A Yerbury
Gender: Female
Where born: Frome, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Frome
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Frome
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Frome
Sub-registration district: Frome
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 1653
Folio: 5
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
William Parfitt 40
Elizabeth Parfitt 45
Oliver Parfitt 15
Sophia Parfitt 12
Sarah Parfitt 16
Mary A Yerbury 21
Ann Yerbury 2


Births Dec 1858 (>99%)
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Yerbury Ann Frome 5c 545


Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
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Wright Mary Ann Frome 5c 938
Yerbury William Frome 5c 938

jax

jax Report 13 Oct 2011 18:05

Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%)
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COPPERWHEAT Sarah Ann Ampthill 3b 821
GOODSHIP Edward Charles Ampthill 3b 821



1911 census - household transcription
Person: GOODSHIP, Sarah Ann
Address: 73 Ash Road Luton Bedfordshire


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GOODSHIP, Edward Charles Head Married M 26 1885 Brass Trimmer Great Barford Beds VIEW
GOODSHIP, Sarah Ann Wife Married
2 years F 22 1889 Wootton Green Beds VIEW
GOODSHIP, Thomas Edward Son M 3 1908 Kempston Beds VIEW

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jax

jax Report 13 Oct 2011 18:07

Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
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COPPERWHEAT William John Ampthill 3b 805
WILDEN Emma Louisa Ampthill 3b 805


1911 census - household transcription
Person: COPPERWHEAT, William John
Address: Irrigation Cottage Bedford


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COPPERWHEAT, William John Head Married M 25 1886 Stockman On Farm Bedford Wootton Green VIEW
COPPERWHEAT, Emma Louisa Wife Married F 33 1878 Bedford Clophill VIEW
COPPERWHEAT, Helen Elizabeth Daughter F 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Bedford VIEW
PITTS, Ann Visitor Widow F 59 1852 Nurseing Sick Nurse Pirton Cambs VIEW

William

William Report 13 Oct 2011 19:44

Again, lots of thanks for all the help.
Very interesting that Sarah Ann Copperwheat seemed to marry a cousin in Edward Charles Goodship.
I wonder if the Parfiit family (ie Elizabeth) was a remarraige, given that Mary Ann Yerbury was a 'Wright' on marriage to Wm Yerbury. A bit more checking out to do, just when I thought everything was solved.
Keeps me off the streets though!!

Many many thanks for your time and help everyone.

jax

jax Report 13 Oct 2011 19:52

Mary Ann was a lodger on that Census...may not be related at all

jax

Quoy

Quoy Report 13 Oct 2011 19:57

What fabulous names you have

jax

jax Report 13 Oct 2011 19:57

1861
Name: William Yerbury
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Son of Wife (Step Son)
Mother's Name: Ann French
Gender: Male
Where born: Frome, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Frome
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Frome
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Frome
Sub-registration district: Frome
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 1653
Folio: 79
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
John French 54
Ann French 55
William Yerbury 28 >>>>Shoemaker married
James French 10

Deaths Jun 1879 (>99%)
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YERBURY William 45 Frome 5c 376

William

William Report 7 Feb 2012 19:47

My thanks to all on following this up. Need last entry to show I've checked all postings