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could someone cast their eagle eye over this to determine the occupation please

1841
name: Thomas Spencer
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Huddersfield
Hundred: Agbrigg (Upper Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Huddersfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1275
Book: 8
Folio: 57
Page Number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Spencer 30
Mary Spencer 20
Abraham Haigh 6
William Haigh 3

Sorry not got a clue.

Never seen anything like that before to even have a guess

I.m guessing I for independant Tobbaconist !

glad it is not just me but you could well be right Lindsay.

Thanks Jennifer

There is another man with the same profession on the preceding page. It looks to begin with 'F' as there is a 'Finisher' also there.

Well 1851 he is a hand loom weaver and the baptism for his son in 1838 says Clothier, but goodness knows what the 1841 says.....


West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about John Spencer Name: John Spencer
Birth Date: 1 Jan
[abt 1838]
Parish: Kirkburton, All Hallows
Baptism Date: 25 Feb 1838
Father's Name: Thomas Spencer
Mother's Name: Mary Spencer

Andy

the thing is I am trying to decide if William and Abraham Haigh who are in the house are the children of Mary perhaps from a previous marriage or as a single woman.I know it says she is 20 but with ages rounded down she could be 24.

Haighs in Huddersfield are like Evans or Jones in Wales!

There are more Haighs on the same page, ages from 21 to 2, so if you want to guess, she could be Haigh before marriage.

The West Yorks baps and marriages on ancestry may help

Andy

The marriage ??

Marriages Sep 1840
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Brown Elizabeth Huddersfield 22 219
Ellis John Huddersfield 22 219
Firth Harriet Huddersfield 22 219
Haigh Mary Ann Huddersfield 22 219 *********
SMITH William Huddersfield 22 219
SPENCE Thomas Huddersfield 22 219 ********
TAYLOR Daniel Huddersfield 22 219
WEAVILL Hannah Huddersfield 22 219

Dea Xxx

1841 shows Mary as 26 !!

This is their marriage:

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about Mary Ann Haigh
Name: Mary Ann Haigh - widow
Birth Year: abt 1814
Age: 26
Marriage or Bann Date: 21 Sep 1840
Parish: Huddersfield, St Peter, St Andrew, St Mark and St Peter
Father's Name: Richard Cheetham - Gardener
Spouse's Name: Thomas Spence - Tobacconist
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Spence - Auctioneer

Witnesses :
William Boulton
Joshua Hoist ???

Dea x

Possible 1st marriage?

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about Mary Ann Cheetham
Name: Mary Ann Cheetham
Marriage or Bann Date: 16 Jul 1832
Parish: Kirkheaton
Spouse's Name: George Haigh


Dea x

Record - Baptisms - George was a Labourer on Toms's baptism and a Dyer on the other two! - Don't know if Tom belongs to 'this family' ???

Tom Haigh abt 1832 Huddersfield, St Peter 21 Oct 1832 George Haigh,
Mary Ann Haigh

Tom Haigh 5 Oct Huddersfield, St Peter Oct 1832 George Haigh,
Mary Ann Haigh

Abraham Haigh abt 1835 Huddersfield, St Peter 6 Sep 1835 George Haigh,
Mary Ann Haigh

William Haigh abt 1838 Huddersfield, St Peter 7 Jan 1838 George Haigh,
Mary Ann Haigh

Dea x

The occupation seems to say :

J (as in journeyman) Tobb (and a squiggle)

Seems to fit with 'Journeyman Tobbaconist !

Dea Xxx

I go to sleep and wake up to find my puzzle solved , I hope. I had seen some of those entries and was trying to make the connections.

I was looking for the father of William Haigh born 1838, on his marriage cert (to Emma Haigh !! ) his father was George Haigh Spinner. William himself was a Shoemaker and the earliest I had found him was 1851 as an Apprentice Shoemaker to Adam Kershaw.

Thankyou all for helping me clarify my thoughts

Jennifer

Need more help please before I despair.

Following on from above info;

Births of children I believe are correct so please don't look for any of these
Tom Haigh died in 1836.
Abraham Haigh b 1835 marries Mary Ann Topham in 1857
William Haigh : I have all his info from birth to marr to death

But what happened to Mary Ann (Cheetham) and her 2nd husband Thomas Spence who appears to disappear after 1841. On the marr cert Thomas age is given as 34 which makes him born c 1806

I thought I had a breakthrough when I found a birth for Richard Cheetham Spence in 1842.

I have found 1 Richard Spence born 1844 Huddersfield but I am not sure if it is the right one.

I am really looking for Mary Ann Spence as she is the direct ancestor

Thank you Jennifer

Have you found Abraham Haigh in 1851 census (to rule out looking for Thomas and Mary Ann with him)?
Thanks

Added:
The Richard 1844 in 1851 has Margaret and Thomas as parents, Thomas born Scotland.
Have you applied for Richard Cheetham Spence's birth certificate, however he does not appear to show in any other free bmd records.

Patchem, yes I have Abraham thanks. To be honest it is really Mary Ann I am looking for, I don't know if the Richard Cheetham Spence is her child but it seemed possible seeing as her father was Richard Cheetham.

I just thought if i could find him he may be with his mother. I have seen that 1851 and have not yet decided if it is the same Thomas Spence with another woman! Though on the 1841 it does say he was born in county and not Scotland.

Have to sign off for this evening as cooking calls.

Thanks Jennifer

Sorry to disagree but I think it looks like Thomas Spence with Maryann not Margaret living at West Parade in Huddersfield on the 1851 census.-jl

Janet thankyou, I think you are right. I have been going round in circles looking for this family.

I'd give you my last Rollo, Jennifer

PS. I see you are researching Haighs as well.