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My grandmother was one of 8 children,7 of them were registered as they are on Freebmd.
The last one,who I am told died very young, doesn't seem to have been registered and there is no death either.
BUT...there is a baptism for her.
Anna Eleanor Graves born 28/6/1876 was baptised at St Thomas Charterhouse, Islington,22/7/1876
This is the right girl,the parents and father's occupation are right.
Anna is not on the 1881 census,so must have been dead by then.
I always thought that if a baby drew a breath after birth it was a 'live'birth and should have been registered and this one appears to have been alive for at least a month.
But,why no death either?
Any ideas appreciated

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Births Jun 1876 (>99%)
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GRAVES Annie Maria Islington 1b 250

Hmm. I also can only find the baptism on 22 Jul 1876.

Are you sure she passed away and just wasn't present on the night of the CENSUS?

maybe too late

Births Dec 1876 (>99%)
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GRAVES Lucy Amiee Islington 1b 270


Deaths Dec 1879 (99%)
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Graves Lucy Aimee 3 Islington 1b 195

Jax
I saw that one and wondered???
Danny
I really don't know.
My grandmother said she had died as a child,but that's all.
I can't see her anywhere at all on the 1881 and she isn't on the 1891 either.
It is odd
Thank you both

Jax
That is a possible.. but could they change the name?

For Ref .

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Anna Eleanor Graves
Name: Anna Eleanor Graves
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1876
Baptism Date: 22 Jul 1876
Father's Name: William Graves
Mother's Name: Margaret Graves
Parish or Poor Law Union: Charterhouse St Thomas
Borough: Islington

Susan
That's the one.
William was a sawyer by trade and in 1881 they lived in Islington with children Margaret,(Sarah)Elizabeth and William

Possible

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Annie Graves
Name: Annie Graves
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1880
Age at Death: 2
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 37

That could be possible,not too far from where they lived.
They did have a child named Annie in 1883 though

Are you sure she died.

A Possible.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Annie Graves
Name: Annie Graves
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Spouse Name: Joseph Hall
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1897
Parish: St Clement, Barnsbury
County: London
Borough: Islington
Father Name: William Graves
Spouse Father Name: James Hall

Birth>>>>>Mistranscribed?

Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
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GROVES Annie Ellen Shoreditch 1c 171

Did they live near Kensington then?

Jany
Can you post the 1871 census so we can see the rest of the family names please.
There are a lot of Annie Graves.

Suex

Susan
Thank you,but not her.
Their living daughter Annie was born in 1883 so doubtful they would have had 2 with the same name??
Although of their 7 daughters 4 of them had Ann included in their names!!
Astra
That is also a possible
Thank you.

1891. I don't thnk they married until after 1871

William Grace
[William Graves]
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Westminster, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Household Members: Name Age
William Grace 37
Margaret A Grace 17
Elizabeth Grace 15
William Grace 9
Mary A Grace 7
Annie L Grace 4
Emily Grace 5
Charlott Grace 3

Jax
No they lived in Islington.
But I did have another relation who died in a hospital in KensingtonUnlikely,but possible!.

Astra
They married in 1873..Somers Town.
William Graves/Margaret Ann Lucy

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In answer to a couple of your questions...

"Their living daughter Annie was born in 1883 so doubtful they would have had 2 with the same name??"

It is possible that the second Annie was named after her deceased sister...Happened alot in my family.

"That is a possible.. but could they change the name?"

A child who was registered with one name could be baptised with another (parents changed their minds or Grandma insisted :-D ) and in that case whoever baptised the child was supposed to notify the registrar but of course that didn't always happen. The parents could also notify the registrar and have an amendment made to the birth cerificate..... But I wonder how many actually did.

What couldn't, or wasn't supposed, to happen was a child being baptised with one name and then registered after with another.... But then again who would know, especially in a busy city district.

Chris

Chris
Thank you for your addition..
It did sort of happen in this family..my nan,the youngest ,was intended to be Jessica,but an old great aunt insisted she was named after her,Charlotte,so she was registered as Charlotte but always known as Jess.
So I guess it is possible that they tried to keep the name Ann/Annie going too