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It looks like I may have picked up Joseph's brother William born c1854 and his family instead of Joseph and family (your direct line) both were living in Albert Rd in 1881 and they both had sons William c1880, sorry for the confusion. There must have been some connection to Nottinghamshire as Joseph's daughter Louisa born c1879 was born there and so was William's son Henry in c1879

Family in 1881:

WELCH, Joseph H Head Married M 29 1852 Plasterer Oxford Street Middlesex
WELCH, Alice F Wife Married F 29 1852 Laundress Paddington Middlesex
WELCH, Joseph H Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar Kilburn Middlesex
WELCH, Louisa A Daughter Single F 2 1879 Worksop Nottinghamshire
WELCH, William E Son Single M 0 1881 Kilburn Middlesex
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Registration District: Hendon
Sub District: Willesden
Civil Parish: Willesden

Address: 54, Albert Road, Willesden County: Middlesex

Here's William's baptism:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: William Edward Welch
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1880
Baptism Date: 19 Dec 1880
Father's Name: Joseph Henry Welch < Plasterer
Mother's Name: Alice Welch
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington St Augustine
Borough: Westminster
Address: 4 Rupert Road

Thank you marie thats a great help

William & Florence's marriage:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: William Welch < Bachelor, Builder's Labourer
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Spouse Name: Florence Luscombe < Spinster
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 24 Apr 1900
Parish: Emmanuel, Paddington
County: London
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Joseph Welch < Plasterer
Spouse Father Name: John Luscombe < Plasterer

The couple both lived at 186 Shirland Road W.

Witnesses were James Henry Luscombe and John Strickley (??)

Chris

I'm reading the information you have provided and it's not matching up with the information I've found on my tree there was a william welch born in 1854 with 3 other siblings joseph being one of them all being born in Middlesex joseph was born in 1852 who then had four children of his own with Alice all children where born in hendon middlesex. Im not sure if you are on about williams children in your message but it is weird as the information you have found for william's children Joseph had a son's called william born 1880 Joseph born 1874 daughters lousia 1879 ada 1887.

I thought it might have been me that mistranscribed that Auscombe/Luscombe but went back to have another look and it's most definitely Auscombe on the Montreal record.

Birth:
Florence Luscombe
Sept Q 1879
Hendon
3a 142

1881 Possibility

Florence Luscombe
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John H. Luscombe
Mother's Name: Charlotte Luscombe
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilburn, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Willesden
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: 108 Denmark Road


Household Members:
Name Age
John H. Luscombe 25
Charlotte Luscombe 27
James H. Luscombe 7
Louisa Luscombe 4
Florence Luscombe 1



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Possible marriage???

June Q 1873
Kensington
1a 300
John Henry Luscombe
Charlotte Yearby

Birth:
William Edward Welch
Dec Q 1880
Hendon
3a 147

1881 possibility


William Welch
Age:27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
born: London City of, London, Middlesex,
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Welch

Street Address: 91 Albert Rd Willesden Middlesex



Employment status:

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Occupation: Plasterer

Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 13a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1365
Folio: 39
Page Number: 72
Household Members:
Name Age
William Welch 27
Annie Welch 21
Henry Welch 2
William Welch (no birth date)


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Not sure if ou can access the above but if not Annie came from Nottinghamshire and William's brother was born there so this could be the parents marriage:

Sept Q 1879
Mansfield
7b 102
William Welch
Annie Miller

Could this be the marriage of William & Florence???

June Q 1900
Paddington
1a 48
William Welch
Florence Luscombe (mistakenly transcribed above as Auscombe)

I don't know if this could be part of the family returning to England?

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about John Welch Name: John Welch
Birth Date: abt 1905
Age: 4
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 30 Jul 1909
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
[Quebec]
Ship Name: Victorian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Victorian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Allan Line
Official Number: 121216

The family consists of:
J., wife, 30
Florence, child, 8
John, child, 4
Maisey?, infant, 0/12

That look like the right one margee thank so much

The family arriving in Canada in 1906. They are:
Wm., 25
Florence, 27
Wm., 5
Florence, 3
Alex., 1
The words "To be deported 810970" are written over their names.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Florence Welch Name: Florence Welch
Gender: Female
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Date of Arrival: 15 Jun 1906
Vessel: Canada
Search Ship Database: View the 'Canada' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-487

This looks like the christening of that John Joseph in Montreal:

Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967
about John Joseph Henry Welch Name: John Joseph Henry Welch
Event Year: 1907-1908
Event: Naissance (Birth)
Religion: Anglican
Place of Worship or Institution: Montréal (Anglican Saint Alban)
Province: Québec (Quebec)

Original says born 9 Sep. 1907, son of William Welch of the town of St. Louis de Mile End? and of Florence Auscombe, his wife.

Thanks Maddie thats some of the info I have found confirmed

Is this Frederick and his brother with mother's maiden name Carr?

Births Dec 1925 (>99%)
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Welch Frederick A Carr Marylebone 1a 712

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Births Mar 1927 (>99%)
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Welch Albert E Carr Marylebone 1a 630

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1911 for alexander ??????
WELCH, William Edward Husband Married M 30 1881 General Labourer Willesden VIEW
WELCH, Florence Wife Married F 31 1880 Willesden VIEW
WELCH, William Robert Son M 10 1901 Willesden VIEW
WELCH, Florence Maud Daughter F 8 1903 Willesden VIEW
WELCH, Alexander Frederick Son M 6 1905 Willesden VIEW
WELCH, John Joeph Son M 3 1908 Montreal Canada VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6984 Reference:
RG14PN6984 RG78PN346A RD129 SD1 ED4 SN138

Registration District:
Willesden Sub District:
Willesden Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Willesden

Address:
85 Granville Road West Kilburn County:
Middlesex

I'm trying to trace my dad's family
all the info I have is on the family tree my partner has done
Stephen Welch born 1952 one of 5 chlidren from Fredrick Welch and Shelia Goodman.
Fredrick Welch born 1925 Died 1996 Married Shelia Goodman March 1952
Fredrick is the son of Alexander fredrick Welch born 1904 married a lillian carr. I'm not sure if fredrick was their only child or not but my father seems to thing he may of had a brother that moved to new zeland. If any one could help please message me and i'll allow access to my tree.

Many thanks in advance
Shane Welch