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James McEwan b. c.1853, Margaret McIntosh b. 1865

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Andrew

Andrew Report 4 Oct 2011 02:59

This is a lengthy post but I am trying to find information on the siblings of my grandparents, above, and their descendants.
My father James McEwan was born on 27 February 1899 at 7 Morriston Gardens, Cambuslang. He was an only child. The marriage of Grandfather James McEwan and Margaret Craig McEwan (nee McIntosh) had taken place on 30 December 1897 at Paisley, the Certificate of Proclamation giving Grandfather James McEwan as steel roller of Gowan Brae, Hutchinson Place, Flemington, and Grandmother McEwan as fruiterer of Chapel Park, Cambuslang.

Grandfather McEwan was born probably in late 1853. His parents were James McEwan, carter, and Janet Sutherland who were married on 18 January 1852 at Old Monkland (part of Airdrie), Lanarkshire. Other brothers and sisters subsequently born were
John McEwan 23 September 1855 New Monkland
Janet McEwan 20 January 1858 Old Monkland
William McEwan 10 May 1860 Old Monkland
Ann McEwan 27 November 1862 New Monkland

In the 1881 census data for Bothwell, Janet, James wife was then 58 and her place of birth was given as Cambuslang. She was living in a house on Old Glasgow Rd., Gowanlea Braidwoods Land, but husband James was not there on the census night. With her were James, 27, William, 20, and Annie, 19. Janet was recorded as “Carter’s wife”, James (son) as “gardener (job+)”, William as “Gen. Lab.”, and Annie as “Carter’s daughter”. In the same street (a few doors away) were John McEwan, age given as 25, a “Stocktaker In+”, his wife Marion, 24, born at Old Monkland, and their son, James, 1 year, also born at Old Monkland.

In the 1891 census the family were resident at 5 Greenhead Tce, Bothwell, Lanarkshire. Present in the house on census night were:
Janet McEwan, Carter’s wife, 66, born Cambuslang
James McEwan, son, Steelworker, 36, b. Coatbridge
John McEwan, son (widower), Foreman steelworker, 33, b. Airdrie
William McEwan, son, Labourer, 28, b. Coatbridge
Annie McEwan, daughter, Milliner, 26, b. Plains
James McEwan, grandson, Scholar, 11, b. Coatbridge
Matthew, grandson, Scholar, 9, b. Uddingston
Jane, granddaughter, Scholar, 7, b. Uddingston
Janet, granddaughter, 5, b. Uddingston.

This indicates that John’s wife Marion had died, perhaps about 3-5 years earlier, and that he and his young family had moved in with his parents, or were visiting on the night of the census. An enlarged family would be a reason for the change of address to a larger house. Again, James senior is not present on census night. There is some consistent discrepancy of about 2 years in the recorded ages, which might arise from the nature of the question asked about age in the census.

The ages given in the 1881 census seem to reflect attained years at the time of the census, except for Annie. The discrepancy in the given ages in the 1891 census is not easy to explain. The ages given for John’s son James are consistent between the two censuses.

In the 1901 Scotland census John McEwan , age 44, was at Monkcastle Drive, Cambuslang, with also present in the house on census night
Elizabeth McEwan, his wife, age 31, b. Tollcross, Lanarkshire,
James McEwan, age 21
Matthew McEwan, age 19
Jane McEwan, age 17
John McEwan, age 7
Charles McEwan, age 5
Elizabeth McEwan, age 3
Mary McEwan, age1

This indicates John has married again and had a second family. It appears Janet, youngest daughter of Marion has died or was not present on census night.

MCINTOSHES
Grandmother McEwan was born on 20 July 1865 at Elderslie. Her parents
James and Margaret (nee Smith) McIntosh were married at Paisley on 16 July 1858. In the 1871 Scotland census parents and family were resident at Sermire Side Cottage, Abbey Landward, present in the house being:
James McIntosh, age 37
Margret McIntosh, age 36
Janet McIntosh, age 18,
Mary McIntosh, age 7,
Margaret McIntosh, age 5,
Agnes McIntosh, age 2,
William Wetson, age 26.

The last named may have been a boarder, helping supplement the family income.

In the 1881 Scotland census the family are resident at Old Road, Johnstone. Present were
James McIntosh, age 47, shale miner, b. Rutherglen
Margaret McEwan, age 46, b.Govan, Renfrewshire
Janet McIntosh, age 20, printer in carpet factory
Mary McIntosh, age 17, printer in carpet factory
Margaret McIntosh, age 15, printer in carpet factory
Agnes McIntosh, age 12, scholar
Marion McIntosh, age 7, scholar
Jane McIntosh, age 4
James McIntosh, age 2.

The family burial plot A.90 at the Abbey Cemetery (located in the county of Renfrew some distance from Paisley Abbey) has had three interments: James McIntosh 30/1/1888, Margaret McIntosh 24/7/1915; and James McIntosh (Grandmother’s father) 28/11/1918. The cemetery plot was purchased at Abbey Cemetery, Abbey Parish of Paisley on 27 th January 1888 and James (son) was buried there on 30th January 1888. On that date the family residence was recorded as Hamburg House, Thornhill, Johnstone.

In the 1891 Scotland census present at the residence at Gleniffer View, Johnstone are
James McIntosh, age 57, factory labourer
Margaret McIntosh, age 56
Maggie McIntosh, age 25, fruiterer
Agnes McIntosh, age 22, carpet weaver
Marion McIntosh, age 17, coop winder
Jeanie McIntosh, age 14. shop woman (fruiterer).

In the 1901 Scotland census James, age 67, and Margaret, age 66, are still resident at Gleniffer View Johnstone, but no family members remain at home. In their residence are electrical engineer boarders George McGahan (from the USA) and Maximillian Knats (from Germany).

Janet b. 7 March 1861 Rutherglen m. David McWhinnie 1884
Mary b. 11 May 1863 Johnstone, Renfrew m. Robert Stevenson1887
Margaret b. 20 July 1865 Johnstone, Renfrew m. James McEwan 1897
Agnes b. 25 June 1868 Johnstone, Renfrew m. ?
Marion b. 1874 Johnstone, Renfrew m. Robert Stirling 1897
Jane (Jeanie) b. 1876 Johnstone, Renfrew m. Robert Dunn 1900
James b. 1879, d.1888.

Janet McIntosh married David McWhinnie in 1884 at Johnstone. In the 1891 census they were resident at 2nd Close, Paisley, the family being listed as
David McWhinnie, age 29
Janet McWhinnie, age 30
James McWhinnie, age 5
John McWhinnie, age 3
Maggie McWhinnie, age 1.

Mary McIntosh at age 24 married Robert Stevenson aged 25 at Thorn, Johnstone on June 10 1887. Robert’s occupation was given as ‘carpet weaver’ and Mary’s as ‘carpet factory hand’. Robert’s parents were David Stevenson, carter, and Agnes (nee McPherson). Witnesses to the marriage were Maggie (Margaret) McIntosh and David Stevenson.
Marion Wilson McIntosh married Robert Stirling at Johnstone in 1897.
Jane (Jeannie) married Robert Dunn b. in Cambusland, Scotland, a noted Exclusive Brethren preacher at Johnstone in 1900. In 1901 they were resident at 42 Stannington Place, Heaton, Newcastle on Tyne. Robert was then 25 and a cashier for a yeast importer. In 1911 they were at Cartington Terrace, Heaton and had a daughter, Margaret Smith Dunn, b.1902. Robert’s occupation was then traveler for a yeast and egg importer. He died suddenly in 1922 on his way home to England from Australasia where he had been ministering.
One McIntosh sister had a daughter who married a Lambert who was a dentist in London. (A photograph of the Lamberts taken in 1935? shows a couple in around their 40s with two young (4 and 8?) daughters, suggesting the mother (Mrs Lambert) was born in the early 1900s and was a granddaughter of James and Margaret McIntosh. A Miss Dunn of Newcastle and Miss Pringle of Morpeth also appear in the photograph, which might suggest Mrs Lambert was a Dunn.)

Gee

Gee Report 4 Oct 2011 05:54

Hi Andrew

Welcome to the GR boards

We always say, give us as much info as you can, in this case I think it's a 'be careful what you wish for'!

Can you now post a simple question which summarises the info that you want as your first post is a bit convoluted and not easy to follow

I’m sure someone will be able to help

x

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 5 Oct 2011 12:59

Hello Andrew - quite some tale you have there.

If you are looking for descendents who may possibly be on this site.....then the best thing to do is to put the names you are researching into the Search Trees box (above in the dark green bar). This will show you if anyone else has them in their tree.

If you find a connection, you can contact the tree owner. Cx

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 7 Oct 2011 08:24

Andrew, I hope you make it back here after my pm to you.


I would definitely advise you to look in the Search Trees box as there seem to be quite a lot of members with your family in their trees.

Regards, Cynthia.


(Just pop your reply where it says 'Add your reply' and click submit.) Thanks. Cx

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Oct 2011 23:32

Thanks Cynthia. I have previously tried seaches on names (probably more than 30 ) but only one so far has been a true link.

Andrew

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 8 Oct 2011 08:12

Sometimes Andrew, it pays to play around with what you put into the Search Box.

For example, don't be too precise with the details.......put in the names and then allow 2-3 years either side of the known birthdate.

Try putting variations on the place names.......Old Monkton/New Monkton/Airdrie/Scotland. Some members can be a little bit vague when it comes to precise places of birth, so they may just put Scotland to be on the safe side.

Have you tried the Scotland's People site?


Glad you found your way back :-D

Cx.

William

William Report 26 Jul 2012 22:09

Dont forget there are actually 4 ways to spell McIntosh - MacIntosh - Mackintosh and McKintosh. It often depended on who could read and write and what the Registrar thought was the correct way to write the name. Cross referencing is vitally important as I can have the same McIntosh in Census Records, OPR Records, Birth Marriage and Death Records, Childrens birth and marriages and the name McIntosh has 4 different spellings. Indeed on the same certificate a father can be written down as McIntosh but his child Mackintosh. Bet you wish you hadnt asked now. Bill McIntosh